From: "tony auguste" <ahma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:37:14 -0000
To paraphrase a phrase:
Those that can, do.
Those that can't, criticise.
Those that can't criticise, criticise criticism.
> From: Ian Robert Douglas <Ian_Robert_Douglas@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Baudrillard's seduction
> Date: 26 October 1998 20:57
> your thoughts reminded me of another sentiment expressed by Deleuze,
> from 'A Portrait of Foucault', in _Negotiations_. He writes, "The
> objections people make, even the questions they pose, always come from a
> safe ashore, and they're like lumps of mud flung at you to knock you down
> and stop you getting anywhere rather than any help: objections always
> from lazy, mediocre people, as Foucault knew better than anyone." It's
> been remarked that toward the end of the 1970's Foucault was expressing
> weariness with his duties at the College de France. No doubt he was also
> tired, at times, of constantly having to explain himself. An instance
> comes to mind--I forget where I read it--where Foucault tells of a
> dropping by in Paris, to visit. They shared some wine and some food, and
> talked no more than 20 minutes in 8 hours. I wonder whether it was more
> out of respect for the enigma of the world that Foucault would remain
> silent to his critics. The more ludricrous ones clearly angered him; and
> his response could be vicious. Steiner is a definate example (from
> but there's also Foucault's response to Lawrence Stone's essay in the
> York Review of Books_ (in 1983).
> But it doesn't seem to me that Baudrillard is lazy. He would seem in
> different category to some of the hack critics who were barely worth
> responding to. I would even say that Baudrillard, in certain ways, is
> worthy of a response than Derrida. For sure Derrida's hardly lazy
> but the force of his critique doesn't seem to me nearly as
> word we must use with care--as Baudrillard's.
> Ian Robert Douglas,
> Associate Lecturer & Fulbright Fellow,
> Watson Institute of International Studies,
> Brown University, Box 1831,
> 130 Hope Street,
> Providence, RI 02912
> tel: 401 863-2420
> fax: 401 863-2192
> "Is there something 'dangerous' in Foucault's thought
> that also explains the passion it continues to arouse?"
> - "Dangerous, yes, because there's a violence in Foucault.
> An intense violence, mastered, controlled, and turned
> into courage." - Gilles Deleuze