From: "Susana Murillo" <smurillo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:26:03 -0300
François: de acuerdo susana
----- Original Message -----
From: "François Gagnon" <francois.gagnon.1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: The foucault list - PLEASE READ
> Well, thanks for the service - it was much appreciated.
> Also, would anybody be interested if I went on to set up a Foucault list
> Yahoo? I propose this in order to reduce the work involved for me (I don't
> have time to familiarize myself with any software and it's pretty easy to
> set up a Yahoo list) and it seems to me the offer somewhat the same
> as the present list (basically an easy going mailing list and an archive -
> although it might be somewhat limited in this last case). Or does somebody
> have a better idea?
> If a few people answer positively to my first question, I'll set it up and
> mail here the subscription information...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "malgosia askanas" <ma@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: The foucault list - PLEASE READ
> > Dear All,
> > This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend to close down
> > foucault list. This decision is part of a wider set of decisions having
> > do with the present circumstances of the Spoon Collective - which, as
> > probably know, has been running this list.
> > The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving founder, has been
> > operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people who currently
> > constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very beginning, and
> > all the others for almost as long.
> > When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a crucial aspect of
> > was our own passionate involvement in the lists we created or took over.
> > As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and confrontation thinking
> > people from all over the computerized world - people from astoundingly
> > different walks of life and with astoundingly different ways of
> > but with a shared passion for more accurate perception and deeper
> > - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous potential for
> > new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is essential to note
> > when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of thought and life, it
> > for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not about
> > public or academic or political service, discharging a societal duty, or
> > providing platforms for this or that political organization or
> orientation -
> > rather, it was about changing life - the life we think and live - right
> > present moment.
> > Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists gradually
> > and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced to an
> > performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of labor. The reasons
> > this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest one, perhaps,
> > the same group of people has been doing the same thing for 10 years. If
> > goal had been less the stability of existing lists and more the
> > of our own passion, we probably could have done better. In any case, we
> > ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats.
> > I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no longer
> > sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am quitting the
> > Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists that I have been
> > responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon Collective as a
> > certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name no longer be
> > whatever the present members may undertake in the future.
> > I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular list from any
> > perspective but my own - and neither would I want to. Only each of you
> > decide whether you value this list enough to step in and recreate it
> > else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make available to you a
> > of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of the archive, and
> > software support for a smooth transition. The present list will stop
> > around December 10th.
> > A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an interest in
> > continuing their present lists or initiating other collective projects
> > Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what develops, the Spoon
> > which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and fascinating
> > can continue to be housed in their present location. In addition, a
> > of the archives is being installed at the domain driftline.org, where
> > will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would like to house
> > additional copies of the full or individual archives elsewhere, this
> > of course increase the goodness.
> > Yours,
> > -malgosia