jln wrote:
>
> I thought this was a foucault list!!
Yes, you are absolutely right, but Judith Butler is connected with
Foucault, with his discourse method and with the fact that both of them
talk about the construction fo something which is talked about of
reason of power! But: What I want to put put is, that those who are
astonished of Butler's position underly an epistemological error: the
fact that the body (bodies) is part of a discourse and that it is only
existing within the frame of a discourse, of scientific talk about it
does not mean that there is no body or gender or sexuality without any
talking about it,- but the problem is: what can you say about it??? All
you can say is part of a cultural and social system of
thinking,knowledge, terms, and so on...
So, this is the bondage between Butler and Foucault. What Butler
misunderstands is that Foucaults talks about sex and sexuality (sex as
practice, sexuality as scientific discourse) and what she means is sex
as biological category of gender denying it,assuming that there is only
gender as a social category.
So far for now.
Hannelore
>
> I thought this was a foucault list!!
Yes, you are absolutely right, but Judith Butler is connected with
Foucault, with his discourse method and with the fact that both of them
talk about the construction fo something which is talked about of
reason of power! But: What I want to put put is, that those who are
astonished of Butler's position underly an epistemological error: the
fact that the body (bodies) is part of a discourse and that it is only
existing within the frame of a discourse, of scientific talk about it
does not mean that there is no body or gender or sexuality without any
talking about it,- but the problem is: what can you say about it??? All
you can say is part of a cultural and social system of
thinking,knowledge, terms, and so on...
So, this is the bondage between Butler and Foucault. What Butler
misunderstands is that Foucaults talks about sex and sexuality (sex as
practice, sexuality as scientific discourse) and what she means is sex
as biological category of gender denying it,assuming that there is only
gender as a social category.
So far for now.
Hannelore