Flora,
I read Athusser ages ago, before I started reading Foucault but I
thought that the main difference between him and Foucault was that
Foucault as well as dumping repression in favour of the productive power
of power, also dumps ideology for discursive formuations / statements.
I've lost my copy of I&ISA and I can't even remember where I originally
got it from. Where can I find a copy of it? has anybody found a copy on
the web? as I would like to have another look at it.
I think you're probably right about the shift, even if they describe it
v. differently. RSA = spectacular royal power and ISA = ? well a big
problem here is that Foucault is *not* a theorist of *State* apparatuses
for all the well known reasons - not least 'cos May 68 through all the
ISAs into turmoil and yet still people did not break free.
Jon.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Flora P. H. Ni" <phni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'"
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Foucault and the body
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:36:13 +0800
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To Rachel, Chad, and Morten,
Thank you all for the info concerning Postmodern Culture.
Any of you interested in the similarity or difference between =
Althusser's ISAs and Foucault's power theory? I take that Foucault's =
rupture apropos of his development of power theory from repressive =
hypothesis to a discursive perspective seems to parallel Althusser's =
change in replacing RSA (repressive state apparatus) with ISAs =
(ideological state apparatus). This is the topic of a paper I am =
working on. Welcome any comment and suggestion.
Flora=20
Dep. of English
Providence University
Taiwan
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I read Athusser ages ago, before I started reading Foucault but I
thought that the main difference between him and Foucault was that
Foucault as well as dumping repression in favour of the productive power
of power, also dumps ideology for discursive formuations / statements.
I've lost my copy of I&ISA and I can't even remember where I originally
got it from. Where can I find a copy of it? has anybody found a copy on
the web? as I would like to have another look at it.
I think you're probably right about the shift, even if they describe it
v. differently. RSA = spectacular royal power and ISA = ? well a big
problem here is that Foucault is *not* a theorist of *State* apparatuses
for all the well known reasons - not least 'cos May 68 through all the
ISAs into turmoil and yet still people did not break free.
Jon.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Flora P. H. Ni" <phni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'"
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Foucault and the body
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:36:13 +0800
Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To Rachel, Chad, and Morten,
Thank you all for the info concerning Postmodern Culture.
Any of you interested in the similarity or difference between =
Althusser's ISAs and Foucault's power theory? I take that Foucault's =
rupture apropos of his development of power theory from repressive =
hypothesis to a discursive perspective seems to parallel Althusser's =
change in replacing RSA (repressive state apparatus) with ISAs =
(ideological state apparatus). This is the topic of a paper I am =
working on. Welcome any comment and suggestion.
Flora=20
Dep. of English
Providence University
Taiwan
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