Matthew,
Thanks for this reply, but I know what the subject/OBJECT distinction is,
and sure there is a very powerful critique of it in Sein und Zeit. Foucault
is, as I've said a number of times on this list, very Heideggerian at times.
My question was about the subject/ABJECT distinction, mentioned in Tanya's
mail.
Happy New Year
Stuart
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From: Matthew Thrond <mthrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 02:38
Subject: Re: Foucault and AIDS
>Subject/object is reminiscent of early Heidegger. See Sein und Zeit.
>What in fact this has to do with foucault is beyond me, though I am
>neither an expert on Foucault nor on Heidegger.
>
>Happy Holidays,
>MT
>
>P.S. Paglia probably refers to Camille Paglia. I avoid her writings
>like the plague, but perhaps shouldn't. As for her remark on Clinton it
>is funny but fails to meet the challenge of Clinton's Alzumenschliches
>behavior.
>
>
>
>
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>>hello
>>
>>>>By the way, what is meant by the subject/abject distinction? Who is
>this
>>>>taken from? Sounds a bit of a poor joke, and a poor criticism of
>Foucault.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Stuart
>>
>>well i was pretty appauled by it- i'll get a more accurate ref for the
>book-
>>
>>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>"Clinton's crimes are incestuous: He makes the whole world his family
>and
>>>then seduces and pollutes it, person by person"--Paglia
>>>
>>
>>do you really think this (about clinton?) who is paglia?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tatiana Tanya Doroshenko
>>
>>tdor1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>
>>
>
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Thanks for this reply, but I know what the subject/OBJECT distinction is,
and sure there is a very powerful critique of it in Sein und Zeit. Foucault
is, as I've said a number of times on this list, very Heideggerian at times.
My question was about the subject/ABJECT distinction, mentioned in Tanya's
mail.
Happy New Year
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Thrond <mthrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 02:38
Subject: Re: Foucault and AIDS
>Subject/object is reminiscent of early Heidegger. See Sein und Zeit.
>What in fact this has to do with foucault is beyond me, though I am
>neither an expert on Foucault nor on Heidegger.
>
>Happy Holidays,
>MT
>
>P.S. Paglia probably refers to Camille Paglia. I avoid her writings
>like the plague, but perhaps shouldn't. As for her remark on Clinton it
>is funny but fails to meet the challenge of Clinton's Alzumenschliches
>behavior.
>
>
>
>
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>>hello
>>
>>>>By the way, what is meant by the subject/abject distinction? Who is
>this
>>>>taken from? Sounds a bit of a poor joke, and a poor criticism of
>Foucault.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Stuart
>>
>>well i was pretty appauled by it- i'll get a more accurate ref for the
>book-
>>
>>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>"Clinton's crimes are incestuous: He makes the whole world his family
>and
>>>then seduces and pollutes it, person by person"--Paglia
>>>
>>
>>do you really think this (about clinton?) who is paglia?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tatiana Tanya Doroshenko
>>
>>tdor1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>
>>
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