JBCM2@xxxxxxx,
i believe we agree more than you suppose.
i was actually arguing that the situation (globalization, etc.) is far more
complicated than a choice between globalism and nationalism. The poster
who wondered if perhaps Haider was "right" in resisting the EU did exactly
that: suggested that our choice is to either succumb to globalization or
resist it with right-wing nationalist politics. I was suggesting, as I
think you are, that it is appropriate for the European community to resist
nationalist xenophobia in one of its members, and also that resistance to
forces of globalization/capitalism does NOT have to take the form of a
racist national identity.
Also, as I was the one to use the "tag" "nationalist, racist, Nazi
ideology," I agree that it is appropriate.
cheers,
rob
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> From: JBCM2@xxxxxxx
> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Austria
> Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:54 AM
>
> In a message dated 02/03/2000 10:46:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> rmaclean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> <<
> Yes. But also, can anyone really believe that this can be schematized
as a
> choice between 1) "one-world government ideology" and 2) nationalist,
> racist, Nazi ideology? It seems that if "postmodernity" "means"
anything,
> it most certainly does NOT "mean" reifying false dualisms.
> >>
>
> I don't think so -- but even so, can't we pay attention to what folks
say,
> and what they stand for? and shouldn't other nations have the right to
act
> in concert against a perceived threat? I'm not arguing for one-world
isms,
> false dualism, or any other ism, but in this particular instance,
> "nationalist, racist, Nazi ideology" does seem an appropriate tag.
clearly
> there are other places in the world where this level of viciousness holds
> sway -- in central america, for example, and in bosnia -- and, after all,
> europe has had the experience of nazi ideology, so it's not unreasonable
that
> they would be responding with some concern. if you feel the need to
worry
> about the effect of a mono ideology, then worry about capitalism, not
about
> protecting thugs who predicate their appeal on hatred and fear of other
> races.....
i believe we agree more than you suppose.
i was actually arguing that the situation (globalization, etc.) is far more
complicated than a choice between globalism and nationalism. The poster
who wondered if perhaps Haider was "right" in resisting the EU did exactly
that: suggested that our choice is to either succumb to globalization or
resist it with right-wing nationalist politics. I was suggesting, as I
think you are, that it is appropriate for the European community to resist
nationalist xenophobia in one of its members, and also that resistance to
forces of globalization/capitalism does NOT have to take the form of a
racist national identity.
Also, as I was the one to use the "tag" "nationalist, racist, Nazi
ideology," I agree that it is appropriate.
cheers,
rob
----------
> From: JBCM2@xxxxxxx
> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Austria
> Date: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:54 AM
>
> In a message dated 02/03/2000 10:46:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> rmaclean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> <<
> Yes. But also, can anyone really believe that this can be schematized
as a
> choice between 1) "one-world government ideology" and 2) nationalist,
> racist, Nazi ideology? It seems that if "postmodernity" "means"
anything,
> it most certainly does NOT "mean" reifying false dualisms.
> >>
>
> I don't think so -- but even so, can't we pay attention to what folks
say,
> and what they stand for? and shouldn't other nations have the right to
act
> in concert against a perceived threat? I'm not arguing for one-world
isms,
> false dualism, or any other ism, but in this particular instance,
> "nationalist, racist, Nazi ideology" does seem an appropriate tag.
clearly
> there are other places in the world where this level of viciousness holds
> sway -- in central america, for example, and in bosnia -- and, after all,
> europe has had the experience of nazi ideology, so it's not unreasonable
that
> they would be responding with some concern. if you feel the need to
worry
> about the effect of a mono ideology, then worry about capitalism, not
about
> protecting thugs who predicate their appeal on hatred and fear of other
> races.....