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<P>ulus </P>
<P>I think this was a brilliant exposition. </P>
<P>Especially I liked the following remarks:</P>
<P>if we really believe in the </P>
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<P>importance of "registration" (as Foucault did, not only in the realm </P>
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<P>of the "physical"), such a concept could help to understand how </P>
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<P>"effects" remain even after "causes" are removed --and this not only </P>
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<P>"in laboratory conditions", but in real life... </P>
<P>May I add a remark by Foucault (which was made in oral communication to Dreyfus and Rabinow) and which says exactly the above. Foucault says:</P>
<P>"People know what they do; they frequently know why they do; but what they don't know is what what they do does"</P>
<P>In fact this is indespensible for understanding Foucault's archealogy and its meaning.</P>
<P>regards</P>
<P>ali</P>
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<DIV></DIV>To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Remanences
<DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:48:56 +0200
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<DIV></DIV>remanence is a word borrowed from physics --the magnetic effect that
<DIV></DIV>endures in a ferro-magnetized field after the effect was purged -- but
<DIV></DIV>it can have a fruitful chance --in spite of Sokal's warnings-- in the
<DIV></DIV>domain of thinking --philosophy, human sciences, especially
<DIV></DIV>filmmaking...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>philosophically it refers to "images" which are nothing but the
<DIV></DIV>"traces" of a real corporeal-physical effect on a body... hence...
<DIV></DIV>Spinoza's "images" are nothing but "remanences"... And the culmination
<DIV></DIV>of this philosophical interpretation of the term could be the formula:
<DIV></DIV>"a perduring effect even when the cause is removed". Physics was
<DIV></DIV>capable to find it out in magnetic and electromagnetic fields
<DIV></DIV>--including what we simply call today as "registration" (magnetic,
<DIV></DIV>videographic, if not digital)... if we really believe in the
<DIV></DIV>importance of "registration" (as Foucault did, not only in the realm
<DIV></DIV>of the "physical"), such a concept could help to understand how
<DIV></DIV>"effects" remain even after "causes" are removed --and this not only
<DIV></DIV>"in laboratory conditions", but in real life...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>the word is a Latinism, that means both a French and English word...
<DIV></DIV>accepted as a technical term... but to which, as we have seen, can
<DIV></DIV>correspond a "concept", provided that a philosophy is interested in...
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<P>ulus </P>
<P>I think this was a brilliant exposition. </P>
<P>Especially I liked the following remarks:</P>
<P>if we really believe in the </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>importance of "registration" (as Foucault did, not only in the realm </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>of the "physical"), such a concept could help to understand how </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>"effects" remain even after "causes" are removed --and this not only </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>"in laboratory conditions", but in real life... </P>
<P>May I add a remark by Foucault (which was made in oral communication to Dreyfus and Rabinow) and which says exactly the above. Foucault says:</P>
<P>"People know what they do; they frequently know why they do; but what they don't know is what what they do does"</P>
<P>In fact this is indespensible for understanding Foucault's archealogy and its meaning.</P>
<P>regards</P>
<P>ali</P>
<P><BR><BR> </P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows----
<DIV></DIV>From: www32 web user <WWW32@xxxxxxxxxxx>
<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<DIV></DIV>To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Remanences
<DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:48:56 +0200
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>remanence is a word borrowed from physics --the magnetic effect that
<DIV></DIV>endures in a ferro-magnetized field after the effect was purged -- but
<DIV></DIV>it can have a fruitful chance --in spite of Sokal's warnings-- in the
<DIV></DIV>domain of thinking --philosophy, human sciences, especially
<DIV></DIV>filmmaking...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>philosophically it refers to "images" which are nothing but the
<DIV></DIV>"traces" of a real corporeal-physical effect on a body... hence...
<DIV></DIV>Spinoza's "images" are nothing but "remanences"... And the culmination
<DIV></DIV>of this philosophical interpretation of the term could be the formula:
<DIV></DIV>"a perduring effect even when the cause is removed". Physics was
<DIV></DIV>capable to find it out in magnetic and electromagnetic fields
<DIV></DIV>--including what we simply call today as "registration" (magnetic,
<DIV></DIV>videographic, if not digital)... if we really believe in the
<DIV></DIV>importance of "registration" (as Foucault did, not only in the realm
<DIV></DIV>of the "physical"), such a concept could help to understand how
<DIV></DIV>"effects" remain even after "causes" are removed --and this not only
<DIV></DIV>"in laboratory conditions", but in real life...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>the word is a Latinism, that means both a French and English word...
<DIV></DIV>accepted as a technical term... but to which, as we have seen, can
<DIV></DIV>correspond a "concept", provided that a philosophy is interested in...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>ulus baker
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