Mr Debord,
This is the greatest text i have read recently. You
dont care, but im giving my sighn under it, and vote
for it with the both hands.
Here is the place to say something to the americans:
(everything , that is real, can be blasted and turned
into ashes. Only the myths cant be blasted.)
The most importenant - the americans decide who will
live , and who will not, in this world. For example -
They decide that Japon should live in wealth and
prosperity, and Japon does. And they decide, that we (
we are soooo many) should not live in wealth and
prosperity - we should be resource for exploitation.
Our women should be theyr prostitute, our poor should
work for them - This is Thailand, Indonesia, South and
Central America.
They came here, and took from us our countries, and
gave them to the most primitive people in this world -
The Albanians. They want to turn our Christian
Countries , into Muslim "region".
" Blessed are thou, who are peacekeepers, because to
them belongs the kingdom of God." says Matthew 5,6;
And they named themselves "Peacekepers"- And came here
to ruin our verry existence, and give it to the
muslims in the balkans. We live ande raise children,
but there are commin americans, saying " You will do
that nomore". Also:
The americans killed large amount of people in South
and Central America.
The americans broked the life of Sergey Antonov - the
man , who was blamed for the shooting agains the pope.
He still can not recover from that process against
him.
You can make yourself the comments.
Regards!
Jivko
--- guillame debord <guydeborder@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> m: owner-lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Mary
> Murphy&Salstrand
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: 9/11/01
> In the Inferno, when Dante meets Virgil he describes
> the Roman poet as
> one whose voice is hoarse from a long silence. That
> is a little how I
> feel right now. Words have become difficult lately.
>
> This is also why
> I have been so silent. In June, my wife Mary and I
> found out that Lily, a close friend of ours,had
> been
> diagnosed with diabetes and there was a chance she
> had
> cancer. Further tests confirmed this suspicion. She
> was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Later, the
> liability of pancreatic cancer also began to emerge.
> The doctors prescribed kemo treatment for her in the
> fall. Lily tried to be brave and positive in the
> face
> of all this. Mary and I also hoped for the best
> under
> the circumstances. We would wait with her and see
> what developed. In late August Lily went to see the
> doctor. He told her that kemo was no longer
> necessary. The cancer was too far advanced. He
> recommended hospice care instead. She was only
> given
> a few more weeks to live. Mary and I were shocked by
> this news. We had known all along that this was
> very
> serious. We never expected events to move as
> quickly
> as this,
> however. Lily remained at home with family and close
> friends. There was a deep sense of love and
> mourning.
> On September 1, she died. She was only 43.Then, on
> Tuesday, September 11, the catastrophe struck New
> York
> and Washington D.C. Without going into details, let
> me just say I knew of number of the people who were
> trapped inside those towers.I have talked directly
> to
> family members of some of those who are missing and
> I have wept. In tragic circumstances such as this,
> terrible ironies emerge. There is the man who was
> working in the building and went down for a smoke
> when
> the first plane hit. Another went to work late that
> day because she was busy frosting her sister's
> birthday cake. Both survived. Another woman lived in
> the Midwest and was only there in New York that day
> to
> attend a business meeting. She is now among the
> missing.
> My own feelings are extremely conflicted by all of
> this. President Bush has called this an act of war.
>
> I see it instead as an act of globalism. What died
> on
> September 11th was the myth that America is alone
> and
> separate, apart from the world. America has always
> tended to see itself as isolationist. In part, this
> luxury was due to its unique particular geographical
> circumstance. The Atlantic separated it from
> Europe,
> the Pacific from Asia. The neighbors to the North
> and
> South were weaker and relations with them were
> fairly
> easy to maintain.Now with the compression of space
> and
> time that characterizes globalism,this immunity has
> been forever lost. America can no longer act as
> though it were a gated community in the face of the
> world.I see Americans struggling right now with this
> new awareness, their gradual awakening to the
> reality
> of how hopeless and narcissistic, its dreams of SDI
> and unilateralism have become.I have heard voices
> asking: "How could such a senseless act occur here?"
>
> It is difficult for Americans to see themselves as
> the
> rest of the world does, especially with the weak
> news
> coverage provided by the American media. More is
> known here about Gary Condit than about Afghanistan
> or
> Palestine. Americans want to see themselves as
> noble,
> idealistic and courageous. The reality of sanctions
> against Iraq, the elimination of the homeland in
> Palestine, the sweatshop conditions in the oil
> fields,
> the bombing of civilians during the Gulf War, the
> unacknowledged racism against the Middle East, none
> of
> this registers deep within the America psyche. In
> our proclamations of innocence, we fail to see the
> blood on our own hands. We rail against terrorism,
> but forget to mention the School of the Americas or
> the history of the CIA.
> Which is not to condone what happened here this
> week.
> Nothing can. No possible good can emerge out of this
> tragedy. It remains senseless and horrible and
> numbs
> the mind.The real question, however, that Americans
> must ask themselves is this.Will we continue to
> believe the duplicitous and bipolar logic of a Bush
> administration that wants to proclaim in the
> fundamentalist theology of a Christian jihad that we
> are good and they are evil? (Whoever they are.) Or
> will we sober up to the true reality of what we have
> become
> and begin to shoulder a greater responsibility for
> our
> global presence within the world?
> That is the terrible choice that confronts us now.
> Will we remain as children living in a fairy tale
> view
> that America is a kind of theme park of freedom and
> democracy or will we mature into a deeper and more
> tragic vision? Will we engage our role as global
> citizens and begin to realize ourselves as the
> multitude and not merely as God's own chosen few?
> with love and grief, eric
> 9/13/01
>
>
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This is the greatest text i have read recently. You
dont care, but im giving my sighn under it, and vote
for it with the both hands.
Here is the place to say something to the americans:
(everything , that is real, can be blasted and turned
into ashes. Only the myths cant be blasted.)
The most importenant - the americans decide who will
live , and who will not, in this world. For example -
They decide that Japon should live in wealth and
prosperity, and Japon does. And they decide, that we (
we are soooo many) should not live in wealth and
prosperity - we should be resource for exploitation.
Our women should be theyr prostitute, our poor should
work for them - This is Thailand, Indonesia, South and
Central America.
They came here, and took from us our countries, and
gave them to the most primitive people in this world -
The Albanians. They want to turn our Christian
Countries , into Muslim "region".
" Blessed are thou, who are peacekeepers, because to
them belongs the kingdom of God." says Matthew 5,6;
And they named themselves "Peacekepers"- And came here
to ruin our verry existence, and give it to the
muslims in the balkans. We live ande raise children,
but there are commin americans, saying " You will do
that nomore". Also:
The americans killed large amount of people in South
and Central America.
The americans broked the life of Sergey Antonov - the
man , who was blamed for the shooting agains the pope.
He still can not recover from that process against
him.
You can make yourself the comments.
Regards!
Jivko
--- guillame debord <guydeborder@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> m: owner-lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Mary
> Murphy&Salstrand
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: lyotard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: 9/11/01
> In the Inferno, when Dante meets Virgil he describes
> the Roman poet as
> one whose voice is hoarse from a long silence. That
> is a little how I
> feel right now. Words have become difficult lately.
>
> This is also why
> I have been so silent. In June, my wife Mary and I
> found out that Lily, a close friend of ours,had
> been
> diagnosed with diabetes and there was a chance she
> had
> cancer. Further tests confirmed this suspicion. She
> was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Later, the
> liability of pancreatic cancer also began to emerge.
> The doctors prescribed kemo treatment for her in the
> fall. Lily tried to be brave and positive in the
> face
> of all this. Mary and I also hoped for the best
> under
> the circumstances. We would wait with her and see
> what developed. In late August Lily went to see the
> doctor. He told her that kemo was no longer
> necessary. The cancer was too far advanced. He
> recommended hospice care instead. She was only
> given
> a few more weeks to live. Mary and I were shocked by
> this news. We had known all along that this was
> very
> serious. We never expected events to move as
> quickly
> as this,
> however. Lily remained at home with family and close
> friends. There was a deep sense of love and
> mourning.
> On September 1, she died. She was only 43.Then, on
> Tuesday, September 11, the catastrophe struck New
> York
> and Washington D.C. Without going into details, let
> me just say I knew of number of the people who were
> trapped inside those towers.I have talked directly
> to
> family members of some of those who are missing and
> I have wept. In tragic circumstances such as this,
> terrible ironies emerge. There is the man who was
> working in the building and went down for a smoke
> when
> the first plane hit. Another went to work late that
> day because she was busy frosting her sister's
> birthday cake. Both survived. Another woman lived in
> the Midwest and was only there in New York that day
> to
> attend a business meeting. She is now among the
> missing.
> My own feelings are extremely conflicted by all of
> this. President Bush has called this an act of war.
>
> I see it instead as an act of globalism. What died
> on
> September 11th was the myth that America is alone
> and
> separate, apart from the world. America has always
> tended to see itself as isolationist. In part, this
> luxury was due to its unique particular geographical
> circumstance. The Atlantic separated it from
> Europe,
> the Pacific from Asia. The neighbors to the North
> and
> South were weaker and relations with them were
> fairly
> easy to maintain.Now with the compression of space
> and
> time that characterizes globalism,this immunity has
> been forever lost. America can no longer act as
> though it were a gated community in the face of the
> world.I see Americans struggling right now with this
> new awareness, their gradual awakening to the
> reality
> of how hopeless and narcissistic, its dreams of SDI
> and unilateralism have become.I have heard voices
> asking: "How could such a senseless act occur here?"
>
> It is difficult for Americans to see themselves as
> the
> rest of the world does, especially with the weak
> news
> coverage provided by the American media. More is
> known here about Gary Condit than about Afghanistan
> or
> Palestine. Americans want to see themselves as
> noble,
> idealistic and courageous. The reality of sanctions
> against Iraq, the elimination of the homeland in
> Palestine, the sweatshop conditions in the oil
> fields,
> the bombing of civilians during the Gulf War, the
> unacknowledged racism against the Middle East, none
> of
> this registers deep within the America psyche. In
> our proclamations of innocence, we fail to see the
> blood on our own hands. We rail against terrorism,
> but forget to mention the School of the Americas or
> the history of the CIA.
> Which is not to condone what happened here this
> week.
> Nothing can. No possible good can emerge out of this
> tragedy. It remains senseless and horrible and
> numbs
> the mind.The real question, however, that Americans
> must ask themselves is this.Will we continue to
> believe the duplicitous and bipolar logic of a Bush
> administration that wants to proclaim in the
> fundamentalist theology of a Christian jihad that we
> are good and they are evil? (Whoever they are.) Or
> will we sober up to the true reality of what we have
> become
> and begin to shoulder a greater responsibility for
> our
> global presence within the world?
> That is the terrible choice that confronts us now.
> Will we remain as children living in a fairy tale
> view
> that America is a kind of theme park of freedom and
> democracy or will we mature into a deeper and more
> tragic vision? Will we engage our role as global
> citizens and begin to realize ourselves as the
> multitude and not merely as God's own chosen few?
> with love and grief, eric
> 9/13/01
>
>
_______________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.ca address at
http://mail.yahoo.ca
__________________________________________________
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