Re: power/knowledge

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Hi Stephen Bean here,
I remember seeing the equivalent over the doorway to a school in Germany,
Wissen ist Macht, (Knowledge is Power). The school was dated, I think, 1895

Stephen

From: cezar tigno <cezartigno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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If i'm not mistaken, the expression "knowledge is power" was used by Francis
Bacon. I'm not sure whether he was the first to use it or whether he was the
one which made the expression popular.

cezar

Birds of the same feather, fight each other.
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>From: John Patrick
>The common expression "knowledge is power" seems to summarize his
>position.There doesn't seem to be anything revolutionary about that.
>Is the interpretation that "knowledge is power" an
>oversimplification of his work?
While I don't know exactly what the common expression means as well as I'm
not particularly familiar with the genealogy of the expression, I would say
the expression "knowledge is power" is too simplistic if 'knowledge' here is
understood as a "system" of representations of the (pre-existing) "reality."
As some people discussed recently within the context of Said, a discourse
can create the very "reality" that it purports to re-present. For instance,
by drawing on Foucault's concept of discourse, Said argues that the
Orientalism constitutes the reality of the Orient through statements that
claim to re-present or express the reality of the Orient. Thus, power or
domination can creep into knowledge as the constitution of what counts as
real.
Well, it's Saturday morning....
Hiro
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>From: John Patrick 
>The common expression "knowledge is power" seems to summarize=
his 
>position.There doesn't seem to be anything revolutionary about that. <B=
R>
>Is the interpretation that "knowledge is power" an 
>oversimplification of his work? 
While I don't know exactly what the common expression means as well as I'm =
not particularly familiar with the genealogy of the expression, I would say =
the expression "knowledge is power" is too simplistic if 'knowledg=
e' here is understood as a "system" of representations of the (pre=
-existing) "reality." 
As some people discussed recently within the context of Said, a discourse c=
an create the very "reality" that it purports to re-present. For i=
nstance, by drawing on Foucault's concept of discourse, Said argues that the=
Orientalism constitutes the reality of the Orient through statements that c=
laim to re-present or express the reality of the Orient. Thus, power or domi=
nation can creep into knowledge as the constitution of what counts as real. =
 
Well, it's Saturday morning.... 
Hiro 
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