Re: Pouvoir

You can find a similar interpretation (or discussion) in Deleuze's
'Foucault'. I don't know if it has been translated.
Francois

Kevin Turner a écrit:

> credit where credit's due - i got the insight from Stuart Elden's
> "mapping the present:" 106, and Beatrice Hanssen's "critique of
> violence": 153, the latter of whom references Gayatri Spivak's
> "Outside the Teaching Machine:" 25-52.
>
> as for power being an actuality: you can take this in (at least) two
> ways - either it is an actuality in terms of being a substance and
> thus a property, or it is an actuality in terms of being a
> potentiality. i think foucault means the later. thus to think of
> power as capacity is not to think of it as an innate capability, or
> an essentail attribute, but precisely the capacity "to be able to"
> (power - pouvoir as a verb, as a doing) through the capacity to
> "know'how" (knowledge - savoir).
>
> i think Nietzsche's observation that 'there is no "being" behind
> doing, acting, becoming; "the doer" is merely a fiction imposed on
> the doing - the doing itself is everything' ("On The Genealogy of
> Morals" 1996: First Essay, 13), is a very good way to think about
> power/pouvoir as a verb.
>
> regards - k.
>
> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:37:47 +1000, Lionel Boxer <lboxer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Can we be certain that Foucault did not mean anything beyond
>> something actual? I think the idea that it has something to do with
>> "capacity" adds an interesting dimension. Where does Foucault make
>> that statement in a clear way?
>>
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>>> From: "Mark Kelly" <mgekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Pouvoir
>>> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 12:30:40 +1000
>>>
>>> we've got to be careful with this - it was a line I chased for a while.
>>> 'pouvoir' as a verb means 'to be able to'; as a noun, it means
>>> 'power'. The reason we have to be so careful is that in 'The
>>> Subject and Power' Foucault is very specific that by power he does
>>> not mean capacity or potential but something actual. 'Power' in
>>> English also has the connotation of a capacity to do something, but
>>> not in Foucault's usage.
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> &gt;From: francois gagnon &lt;francois.gagnon.1@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;
>>> &gt;Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> &gt;To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> &gt;Subject: Re: micro-translations
>>> &gt;Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:46:47 -0400
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;Yes it can.
>>> &gt;F.
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;Kevin Turner a écrit:
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;while we're on the subject of translation...
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;can someone confirm that the term foucault uses for power,
>>> &gt;&gt;&quot;pouvoir,&quot; can also mean &quot;be able
>>> (to)&quot;, &quot;can,&quot; &quot;be possible,&quot; or
>>> &gt;&gt;&quot;capacity,&quot; etc.
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;cheers - k
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:52:00 +0200, xavier delcourt
>>> &gt;&gt;&lt;delcourt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; wrote:
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;&gt;équilibre européen: &quot;european balance&quot; would
>>> be totally acceptable
>>> &gt;&gt;&gt;from my point of view
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;&gt;
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;--
>>> &gt;François Gagnon
>>> &gt;Doctorant
>>> &gt;Département de Communication
>>> &gt;Université de Montréal
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;
>>> &gt;
>>>
>>>
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François Gagnon
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Département de Communication
Université de Montréal




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