Re: [Foucault-L] genealogy of power

["M. Karskens" <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The most close to <genealogy of power>  comes the 
January 7 1976 lecture: "l'enjeu de toutes cettes 
généalogies, ... est celui ci: qu'est-ce que ce 
pouvoir " (French edition p.13 below; I think 
this will be p.12 of the Englis translation):
the second place is mentioned by you, it is the 
interview with Trombadori of June 1976: "ed il 
ricorso ad analisi che si farebbero in termini di 
genealogie, di rapporti di forza, di sviluppi 
strategici, di tattitiche" see, Microfisica del 
Potere p.8 =  Dits et Ecrits III page 145

yours
machiel karskens


At 09:34 24-10-2008, Kevin Turner wrote:
> Hi Clare, and thanks for the references. Having 
> scanned through them very quickly, I was 
> reasonably surprised to come across no instances 
> of the phrase "genealogy of power." The closest 
> Foucault come to saying this is in 'Truth and 
> Power' where he refers to â??the genealogy of 
> relations of forceâ?? (P/K: 114; EW3: 116). What 
> is interesting is that I have found many more 
> instances in which Foucault talks about doing a 
> "genealogy of knowledge (connaissance)," which 
> would be the "indispensable other side" to the 
> "archaeology of knowledge (savoir): see, for 
> example, "Psychiatric Power:" 238ff, 346; 
> "Society Must Be Defended:" 8-12; and in "Penal 
> Theories and Institutions," which has yet to be 
> translated into English, Foucault makes a 
> distinction between what he calls "an 
> archaeology of knowledge" and a "dynastics of 
> knowledge," cf. PP: 256n13; see also, EW1: 
> 17ff). What's even more interesting is that I 
> think I have only come across one instance in 
> which a "genealogy of connaissance" is discussed 
> in the secondary literature. I cannot remember 
> the exact reference, but I think it was 
> something written by Stuart Elden. If anyone 
> knows of other instances of this, could I please 
> have references. Regards, Kevin. > -----Original 
> Message----- > From: c.ofarrell@xxxxxxxxxx > 
> Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:43:37 +1000 > To: 
> foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: 
> [Foucault-L] genealogy of power > > Kevin > > I 
> don't have my books with me but try The Order of 
> Discourse, 'Truth > and power' and 'Two 
> lectures'. If Foucault does use the term these > 
> are the most likely places. > > You raise a 
> useful point about secondary commentary 
> inventing terms > which then get attributed to 
> the primary source and the necessity to > 
> carefully check. I won't even begin to mention 
> the problems of > translation... > > At 10:48 AM 
> -0800 23/10/08, Kevin Turner wrote: > >I cannot 
> find this phrase in the text you mention - do 
> you have a > >reference to the page on which 
> Foucault uses "genealogy of power"? >> > >The 
> reason I am asking the question is that I don't 
> remember ever > >reading this phrase in any of 
> Foucault's texts, and so I'm 
> wondering > >whether is actually a product of 
> secondary commentary which, 
> through > >reiteration, has somehow become 
> attributed to Foucault himself. > > -- > 
> regards > Clare > 
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Prof. Machiel Karskens
social and political philosophy
Faculty of Philosophy
Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands