Gabriel Ash wrote:
>
> On Sat, 01 Jun 1996 09:21:59 -0500, Nicholas Dronen wrote:
>
> >
> > Marx, clearly, was was affected by Dickensian Londen. He lived
> >during a time of radical economic change and it certainly wasn't pretty.
> >I don't know if his "insights" apply today. Sure, we can throw about Marxist
> >theory, but can we throw it about *as if* its terms really fit the phenomenon?
>
> Marxist theory is not supposed to fit the phenomena, it is supposed to force
> the phenomena to fit those who in the present state of things are considered misfits.
>
> >
> > In order for a voluntary labor cooperative (assuming you're talking
> >about them and not a top-down enforcement of a cooperative arrangement on
> >all firms) to be as productive as a "capitalist" firm, it would need very
> >dedicated members. Free-riders abound in the world. They're out there,
> >waiting to sap you and me of valuable resources. Be careful.
>
> Yeh, I see all those starved faces of Africa and Sout-America glowing at me as they
> look out for a free-ride on my back. The amazing thing about North America, is that
> it is problably the only place in the world where otherwise sensible people seriously
> believe that the poor exploit the rich.
It's also where the compassionate have no sense of humor.
Nicholas
>
> On Sat, 01 Jun 1996 09:21:59 -0500, Nicholas Dronen wrote:
>
> >
> > Marx, clearly, was was affected by Dickensian Londen. He lived
> >during a time of radical economic change and it certainly wasn't pretty.
> >I don't know if his "insights" apply today. Sure, we can throw about Marxist
> >theory, but can we throw it about *as if* its terms really fit the phenomenon?
>
> Marxist theory is not supposed to fit the phenomena, it is supposed to force
> the phenomena to fit those who in the present state of things are considered misfits.
>
> >
> > In order for a voluntary labor cooperative (assuming you're talking
> >about them and not a top-down enforcement of a cooperative arrangement on
> >all firms) to be as productive as a "capitalist" firm, it would need very
> >dedicated members. Free-riders abound in the world. They're out there,
> >waiting to sap you and me of valuable resources. Be careful.
>
> Yeh, I see all those starved faces of Africa and Sout-America glowing at me as they
> look out for a free-ride on my back. The amazing thing about North America, is that
> it is problably the only place in the world where otherwise sensible people seriously
> believe that the poor exploit the rich.
It's also where the compassionate have no sense of humor.
Nicholas