At 05:28 PM 4/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>At 03:46 PM 4/17/97 -0700, dan griesbach wrote:
>>could you help me with your insistence on the "effective sentence"
>>and "effective route to a good education"? what is the sentence
>>for which you are searching effective _for_? These thinkers were
>>each trying to communicate something new, something valuable, and
>>maybe the most effective sentences either were already taken, or had
>>let them down... I guess I am kind of leery of any routes that are too
>>awfully effective to a good education. Such a good path may be the
>>one which is most efficient, yes, but also the most laid out, most
>>trodden... An emphasis on efficiency is not a philosophically neutral
>>position either, as I'm sure you know.should we or should we not
>>leave the realm of thought, if not others, alone, not placing on it
>>our logic of efficiency, means/ends, etc..?
>
>What an excellent parody. It appears to be a self-parody. But!
>if one were to respond to it seriously they would become the
>object of the parody. Most interesting. Thanks
>
>Dave
>
>"Never tell what you're doing, and pretending to tell,
>do something else that immediately crypts, adds,
>entrenches itself." - Derrida
c'mon... lets pretend that I wasn't so hard on myself, and that no one
would be so hard on you, as to cultivate such an abundance of parody, and
just clue me in on where you're coming from in that post. I'm really not
smart enough for self-parody yet. maybe too innocent. i dunno. but if
you've got a criticism of those writers' incoherence... can you say a
little more about it? -D
>At 03:46 PM 4/17/97 -0700, dan griesbach wrote:
>>could you help me with your insistence on the "effective sentence"
>>and "effective route to a good education"? what is the sentence
>>for which you are searching effective _for_? These thinkers were
>>each trying to communicate something new, something valuable, and
>>maybe the most effective sentences either were already taken, or had
>>let them down... I guess I am kind of leery of any routes that are too
>>awfully effective to a good education. Such a good path may be the
>>one which is most efficient, yes, but also the most laid out, most
>>trodden... An emphasis on efficiency is not a philosophically neutral
>>position either, as I'm sure you know.should we or should we not
>>leave the realm of thought, if not others, alone, not placing on it
>>our logic of efficiency, means/ends, etc..?
>
>What an excellent parody. It appears to be a self-parody. But!
>if one were to respond to it seriously they would become the
>object of the parody. Most interesting. Thanks
>
>Dave
>
>"Never tell what you're doing, and pretending to tell,
>do something else that immediately crypts, adds,
>entrenches itself." - Derrida
c'mon... lets pretend that I wasn't so hard on myself, and that no one
would be so hard on you, as to cultivate such an abundance of parody, and
just clue me in on where you're coming from in that post. I'm really not
smart enough for self-parody yet. maybe too innocent. i dunno. but if
you've got a criticism of those writers' incoherence... can you say a
little more about it? -D