RE: Pinochet and disappeared

bueno, sencillamente tenes que hacer reply al mensaje que recibas. =
sino,
abri un nuevo mensaje y escribi en el destinatario
foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Creo que con eso tiene que andar. Yo estoy estudiando negocios en =
estados
unidos y termino en unos meses, para volverme a argieland. la verdad es =
que
estoy podrido de estos gringos e' porra.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Anaspinoza [mailto:anaspinoza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 9:19 PM
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Pinochet and disappeared



-----Mensaje original-----
De: Marcos Peralta <Marcos.Peralta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Para: 'foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: Viernes 13 de Noviembre de 1998 19:06
Asunto: Pinochet and disappeared



Hola Marcos.
vivo en Buenos Aires y estoy, como vos, suscripta a la lista de =
Foucault de
la Universidad de Virginia (=BFd=F3nde viv=EDs?)
A=FAn no soy muy ducha en inform=E1tica. Estoy suscripta a la lista de =
filosof=EDa
de la UBA y s=E9 como mandar los mensajes. Pero no he tenido =E9xito =
con esta
lista de Foucault.
=BFSer=EDas tan amable de indicarme c=F3mo diablos mando un mensaje a =
la lista?
(S=E9 que estoy suscripta porque me lleg=F3 el acuse de recibo).
Gracias! Saludos
Ana





>Ian, I have some thoughts ... (but not very academic ones)
>
>I think that what happened in Chile (as well as in Argentina -my =
country-
>and many other South American countries) is a good example of what =
Foucault
>says in the first part of your quote.
>
>I think that Chile is an extreme example (extreme at least for =
Americans
and
>western Europeans) of how an specific group can use the different =
forms of
>legitimized control (justice, the existence of a military force,
regulations
>about what is moral or not, etc) to support its political hegemony.
>
>Further, I think that today the same reasoning applies. Even though I =
am
not
>a Pinochet supporter, I have to agree that this intent to judge =
Pinochet is
>a political act. And sincerely, I don't think that this fact is =
necesarily
>bad.
>
>Besides this debate around the use of justice as a political tool, I =
think
>that there is a much more interesting physics-of-power analysis to be =
made
>about the Chilean process such as, how
>did Chileans build networks to develop opposition activities at their =
local
>level of influence? how did they build connections with other nodes? =
how
did
>Pinochet and his allies confronted the micro-networks that opposed =
them?.
>
>I think that an analysis like this may generate good insights about =
how to
>develop strategies at the micro-physic level of power to combat a
>macro-physic state-driven hegemony.
>
>Saludos / Regards
>
>Marcos A. Peralta
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ian Robert Douglas [mailto:Ian_Robert_Douglas@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 7:43 PM
>To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: disappeared
>
>
>Does anyone have any thoughts on Pinochet? There is an interesting
>response from Foucault in _Remarks on Marx_ where he states, "It seems =
to
>me that the idea of justice in itself is an idea which in effect has =
been
>invented and put to work in different types of societies as an =
instrument
>of a certain political and economic power or as a weapon against that =
power
>.. One can't .. put these notions forward to justify a fight which =
should
>.. overthrow the very fundaments of our society."
> I'm quoting out of context, of course, but I wonder what Foucault =
might
>have said about Pinochet. Or better still--for we shouldn't feel any =
need
>to parrot-fashion attempt to use the words he might use--I wonder what
>people who, like myself, have been deeply influenced by his force of
>thinking and intervention think about this immediate issue.
>
>best wishes/sincerely,
>
>____________________________________________
>Ian Robert Douglas,
>Watson Institute of International Studies,
>Brown University, Box 1831,
>130 Hope Street,
>Providence, RI 02912
>
>tel: 401 863-2420
>fax: 401 863-2192
>
>"Above all, we must keep firmly in mind what
> it means to be a human being." - Kierkegaard
>

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