In a message dated 1/16/99 7:01:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
anaspinoza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> The Frankfurt School was not politically neutral,
> if you consider politic not in a narrow sense.
Firstly, you need to consider prewar Germany when you consider what is
politic.
The real marxists were brutally murdered in 1918 with the shooting of Rosa
Luxembourg (do I have this name wrong?). The belief by many German socialists
in the Russian experiment going on at the time was the only hope for the
German socialist party. But, the Frankfurt School theorists did not
participate in this utopic fantasy and of course they were adamantly opposed
to the nazi's and fortunately foresaw the future and moved their funds and
many documents near to Geneva for the quick retreat. They left Germany in
'36!!!
The Frankfurt School conducted anti-totalitarian studies while in the US and
can hardly be thought of as having anything to do with American Politics. In
the 60's, the students radicals were astonished and outraged that Marcuse and
Adorno did not participate in the planned uprising of '68. Habermas as the
latest rep of the FS can really only be considered in terms of his philosophy
even though its effect probably had something to do with the folding of the
Soviet Gov't in terms of their unrealizable values and the ethical, Democratic
pressures applied upon their beliefs.
I think you are harboring some misconceptions about the FS works. Yes, there
were some members who were communists in the early 20's when it was quite
progressive and popular, but the FS has always pointed out that Marx's
fundamental thesis has never consisted of even a single shred of evidence,
namely, the eventual collapse of capitalism. There are many important things
to know about the FS that are distorted
by popular beliefs.
Vunch
anaspinoza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> The Frankfurt School was not politically neutral,
> if you consider politic not in a narrow sense.
Firstly, you need to consider prewar Germany when you consider what is
politic.
The real marxists were brutally murdered in 1918 with the shooting of Rosa
Luxembourg (do I have this name wrong?). The belief by many German socialists
in the Russian experiment going on at the time was the only hope for the
German socialist party. But, the Frankfurt School theorists did not
participate in this utopic fantasy and of course they were adamantly opposed
to the nazi's and fortunately foresaw the future and moved their funds and
many documents near to Geneva for the quick retreat. They left Germany in
'36!!!
The Frankfurt School conducted anti-totalitarian studies while in the US and
can hardly be thought of as having anything to do with American Politics. In
the 60's, the students radicals were astonished and outraged that Marcuse and
Adorno did not participate in the planned uprising of '68. Habermas as the
latest rep of the FS can really only be considered in terms of his philosophy
even though its effect probably had something to do with the folding of the
Soviet Gov't in terms of their unrealizable values and the ethical, Democratic
pressures applied upon their beliefs.
I think you are harboring some misconceptions about the FS works. Yes, there
were some members who were communists in the early 20's when it was quite
progressive and popular, but the FS has always pointed out that Marx's
fundamental thesis has never consisted of even a single shred of evidence,
namely, the eventual collapse of capitalism. There are many important things
to know about the FS that are distorted
by popular beliefs.
Vunch