jordi folgado wrote:
> i think the spain example doesn't work very well (spanish
> government suports both fronts, pinochet's prosecution +
> nato's atac on yugoslavia).....
>
> ----------------
>
> That's exactly my point. That's why I brought them up. Why
> don't we go ahead and ask-- Does Spain's human rights record
> in the past and their current support of the NATO bombing
> mean they have no legitimate right to try Pinochet? In order
> to be consistent with the arguments that have been advanced,
> most of the detractors of NATO on this list would have to
> say "No, they have to let Pinochet go." It remains to be
> seen how consistent people are willing to be in the face of
> the temptation to try Pinochet for his government's
> atrocities.
>
> ---------------
> on wether nato should or not intervine in other "similar"
> cases hapening around the world, i've got a question: do you
> think 100% of nato's power is being used now in
> yugoslavia?in case the answer is no: why is it then not
> being used in all (or just some, to show intentions, right?)
> those other countries where it is needed?
> ---------------
>
> No, I don't think NATO's full power is being used---reserves
> are always kept
> in order to respond to other possible threats. As to why it
> isn't being used in many other countries, there are a myriad
> of reasons. One is that many violations take place in NATO
> countries or allies (Indonesia, for example) and that would
> be too embarrassing.
>
> Another is that NATO is a Euro-security cooperative and was
> never intended to be anything else... For example it's not
> concerned with African security. There was no "compelling
> security interest" to be in Rwanda in 1995, so to speak. The
> U.N. was completely ineffectual and NATO didn't care.
>
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Christopher W. Chase
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ECA 377 Department of Religious Studies
Arizona State University Tempe, AZ
(480) 965-7145
christopher.chase@xxxxxxx
http://www.public.asu.edu/~heresy
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> i think the spain example doesn't work very well (spanish
> government suports both fronts, pinochet's prosecution +
> nato's atac on yugoslavia).....
>
> ----------------
>
> That's exactly my point. That's why I brought them up. Why
> don't we go ahead and ask-- Does Spain's human rights record
> in the past and their current support of the NATO bombing
> mean they have no legitimate right to try Pinochet? In order
> to be consistent with the arguments that have been advanced,
> most of the detractors of NATO on this list would have to
> say "No, they have to let Pinochet go." It remains to be
> seen how consistent people are willing to be in the face of
> the temptation to try Pinochet for his government's
> atrocities.
>
> ---------------
> on wether nato should or not intervine in other "similar"
> cases hapening around the world, i've got a question: do you
> think 100% of nato's power is being used now in
> yugoslavia?in case the answer is no: why is it then not
> being used in all (or just some, to show intentions, right?)
> those other countries where it is needed?
> ---------------
>
> No, I don't think NATO's full power is being used---reserves
> are always kept
> in order to respond to other possible threats. As to why it
> isn't being used in many other countries, there are a myriad
> of reasons. One is that many violations take place in NATO
> countries or allies (Indonesia, for example) and that would
> be too embarrassing.
>
> Another is that NATO is a Euro-security cooperative and was
> never intended to be anything else... For example it's not
> concerned with African security. There was no "compelling
> security interest" to be in Rwanda in 1995, so to speak. The
> U.N. was completely ineffectual and NATO didn't care.
>
---
Christopher W. Chase
-----------------------------------------------
ECA 377 Department of Religious Studies
Arizona State University Tempe, AZ
(480) 965-7145
christopher.chase@xxxxxxx
http://www.public.asu.edu/~heresy
-----------------------------------------------