In a message dated 09/23/2000 6:17:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
comertod@xxxxxxx writes:
<<
joe brennan: Foucault warns us about polemicists who are more concerned with
ad hominem than with finding a space for all to speak. I don't see any
attempt to answer an honest and forthright criticism in your below post. How
exactly is your attack of Cheney different than the actions of right
wingers "who make a living attacking intellectuals?" I mean, besides the
"obvious" fact that you are right...
>>
todd comer: wake up! or grow up! if you're someone who shares Cheney's
point of view, we're wasting our time talking. I find you post curious;
because I dismiss Cheney as yet another right-winger intent on slandering
intellectualism -- a point of view that's no more arbitrary than your
characterization of my position as a polemicist engaging in ad hominem
arguments, a favorite slander employed by pseudo-intellectuals like yourself
whenever someone disagrees with them -- I'm somehow not allowing others to
speak. what crap. my opinion of Cheney is predicated upon years of seeing
how she, and others like her, despise any progressive notion that doesn't fit
into their canned opinions of how things should be. this notion that Cheney
trivial doublespeak should be equally considered along side the honest and
exhaustive studies of Foucault is, to me, asinine, as is your feeble attempt
to somehow invoke Foucault against me.
apart from saying that she has the right to state her point of view, you have
nothing to say about the content of that argument. I've not refused her this
right, I simply don't find anything interesting in it. I dismiss it as
another attack by the right-wing on european intellectuals; there's nothing
new here. people like Cheney have attacked Freud and Marx for decades, and
now they have pointed their vitriol at anything french.
anyone who doesn't like my position is free to add their own pinch of salt.
if you think there's something legitimate in Cheney's argument, then you
certainly have the right to say what it is.
jb...
comertod@xxxxxxx writes:
<<
joe brennan: Foucault warns us about polemicists who are more concerned with
ad hominem than with finding a space for all to speak. I don't see any
attempt to answer an honest and forthright criticism in your below post. How
exactly is your attack of Cheney different than the actions of right
wingers "who make a living attacking intellectuals?" I mean, besides the
"obvious" fact that you are right...
>>
todd comer: wake up! or grow up! if you're someone who shares Cheney's
point of view, we're wasting our time talking. I find you post curious;
because I dismiss Cheney as yet another right-winger intent on slandering
intellectualism -- a point of view that's no more arbitrary than your
characterization of my position as a polemicist engaging in ad hominem
arguments, a favorite slander employed by pseudo-intellectuals like yourself
whenever someone disagrees with them -- I'm somehow not allowing others to
speak. what crap. my opinion of Cheney is predicated upon years of seeing
how she, and others like her, despise any progressive notion that doesn't fit
into their canned opinions of how things should be. this notion that Cheney
trivial doublespeak should be equally considered along side the honest and
exhaustive studies of Foucault is, to me, asinine, as is your feeble attempt
to somehow invoke Foucault against me.
apart from saying that she has the right to state her point of view, you have
nothing to say about the content of that argument. I've not refused her this
right, I simply don't find anything interesting in it. I dismiss it as
another attack by the right-wing on european intellectuals; there's nothing
new here. people like Cheney have attacked Freud and Marx for decades, and
now they have pointed their vitriol at anything french.
anyone who doesn't like my position is free to add their own pinch of salt.
if you think there's something legitimate in Cheney's argument, then you
certainly have the right to say what it is.
jb...