Erik,
Well, anybody who says that orthodox Jews are arrogant bastards may not be a
friend of Hitler, but disqualifies her/himself by making a stupid
generalization. And anybody who automatically links orthodox Jewry with
Israeli politics should be locked up in a library to find out about the
different strands in orthodox Judaism which range from Zionist to
non-Zionist, anti-Zionist and post-Zionist. So, please, instead of
preaching nuance, practice it!
Yves
On 07/09/01 17:52 Uhr, "Erik Hoogcarspel" wrote:
> Lionel, you would be paranoiaic if you would suggest that the Free
> constructionworkers were the only factor. This is not how I understand you.
> And
> there are other causes of cours.
> It's not only in creating the state of Israel, but also in supporting it in
> all
> activities of religious terrorism that western countries have contributed to
> the
> present situation. And that cannot only be blamed on the Free Masons. I think
> the orthodox Protestant movements are much stronger and all consider the Jews
> as
> the choosen people. In the U.S. many hospitals have taken over the practice of
> circumsizing babies, just because it's a jewish custom (any neutral medical
> expert will tell you that there's no medical or hygienic reason to do such a
> thing, in fact it's as intelligent as trying to keep your feet clean by
> throwing
> all you're shoes and socks away).
> Here in Holland I've met quite some people who will not hear any critic on the
> Israeli politics, because they've spent a year in a kibbuts or because they
> still feel guilty about the shoah and see the Jews as the innocent prosecuted
> underdog. And there's no room for nuance. Anyone who says that orthodox Jews
> are
> arrogant bastards, is supposed to be a friend of Hitler's.
>
> erik
>
> Lionel Boxer wrote:
>
>> I don't think my comments are paranoiaic at all. They do not worry me if
>> that is what you are referring to ... rather they explain why the English
>> created the State of Isreal. They saw it as their duty to make it happen.
>>
>> In an article about Gadamer, Outwaite (in Skinner (1985, p. 24)) explains:
>> 'This notion of projection tends to be misunderstood in the Anglo-Saxon
>> world as a mysterious kind of empathy, but what Dilthey (1958) and others
>> really had in mind was a much more cerebral process based on a common sphere
>> of experience.
>>
>> This Masonry was indeed a common sphere of experience and the English did
>> not (and perhaps still do not) 'know what they do does', to quote another
>> idea of Foucault. If a whole nation attend monthyly meetings that reinforce
>> the notion that Jews are meant to be in Isreal then they will gain
>> satisfaction in seeing that take place.
>>
>> Just an idea. Not paranoiaic.
>>
>> After reading a bit of Foucualt, I get the feeling that the English race
>> does not understand alegory to the same degree that the French and Russians
>> do.
>>
>> ---------------
>> guillame debord <guydeborder@xxxxxxxx>
>> Some of those things that you are saying are quite
>> parnoiaic. Very good and nice, I like that mad
>> critical nuts which reads things into those weird
>> movements de la passe!!
>>
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>
Well, anybody who says that orthodox Jews are arrogant bastards may not be a
friend of Hitler, but disqualifies her/himself by making a stupid
generalization. And anybody who automatically links orthodox Jewry with
Israeli politics should be locked up in a library to find out about the
different strands in orthodox Judaism which range from Zionist to
non-Zionist, anti-Zionist and post-Zionist. So, please, instead of
preaching nuance, practice it!
Yves
On 07/09/01 17:52 Uhr, "Erik Hoogcarspel" wrote:
> Lionel, you would be paranoiaic if you would suggest that the Free
> constructionworkers were the only factor. This is not how I understand you.
> And
> there are other causes of cours.
> It's not only in creating the state of Israel, but also in supporting it in
> all
> activities of religious terrorism that western countries have contributed to
> the
> present situation. And that cannot only be blamed on the Free Masons. I think
> the orthodox Protestant movements are much stronger and all consider the Jews
> as
> the choosen people. In the U.S. many hospitals have taken over the practice of
> circumsizing babies, just because it's a jewish custom (any neutral medical
> expert will tell you that there's no medical or hygienic reason to do such a
> thing, in fact it's as intelligent as trying to keep your feet clean by
> throwing
> all you're shoes and socks away).
> Here in Holland I've met quite some people who will not hear any critic on the
> Israeli politics, because they've spent a year in a kibbuts or because they
> still feel guilty about the shoah and see the Jews as the innocent prosecuted
> underdog. And there's no room for nuance. Anyone who says that orthodox Jews
> are
> arrogant bastards, is supposed to be a friend of Hitler's.
>
> erik
>
> Lionel Boxer wrote:
>
>> I don't think my comments are paranoiaic at all. They do not worry me if
>> that is what you are referring to ... rather they explain why the English
>> created the State of Isreal. They saw it as their duty to make it happen.
>>
>> In an article about Gadamer, Outwaite (in Skinner (1985, p. 24)) explains:
>> 'This notion of projection tends to be misunderstood in the Anglo-Saxon
>> world as a mysterious kind of empathy, but what Dilthey (1958) and others
>> really had in mind was a much more cerebral process based on a common sphere
>> of experience.
>>
>> This Masonry was indeed a common sphere of experience and the English did
>> not (and perhaps still do not) 'know what they do does', to quote another
>> idea of Foucault. If a whole nation attend monthyly meetings that reinforce
>> the notion that Jews are meant to be in Isreal then they will gain
>> satisfaction in seeing that take place.
>>
>> Just an idea. Not paranoiaic.
>>
>> After reading a bit of Foucualt, I get the feeling that the English race
>> does not understand alegory to the same degree that the French and Russians
>> do.
>>
>> ---------------
>> guillame debord <guydeborder@xxxxxxxx>
>> Some of those things that you are saying are quite
>> parnoiaic. Very good and nice, I like that mad
>> critical nuts which reads things into those weird
>> movements de la passe!!
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>