quite - and the guards in the Stanford Prison Experiment were never given
any training. But then, as Foucauldians, we know that they were already
trained to disciplinary environments throught their schools and workplaces.
----- Original Message -----
From: "McIntyre" <mcintyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Panopticon Reversed
> this suggests that what happened is not the norm - jailers are the same
> everywhere in that they exploit the opportunity to exercise power over
> inmates - they are not educated or indoctrinated into behaving properly
but
> are subject to a variety of external constraints - the most trained
soldiers
> are often the most brutal and aggressive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lionel Boxer" <lboxer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:51 AM
> Subject: RE: Panopticon Reversed
>
>
> > The jailers were army reservists. Army reservists tend to meet for a
few
> > hours a week (recall George Bush's intermittent -virtually no existent -
> > service in the air force reserve). These people are not indoctrinated to
> the
> > same degree as regular army people - one of the risks of employing army
> > reservists in operations. It could be that they took photos of what
they
> > were doing to send to their friends at home. They are certainly not
> subject
> > to military gaze to the same degree as regular army solders.
> >
> > Definitely a subject that could be explored with Foucauldian concepts.
any training. But then, as Foucauldians, we know that they were already
trained to disciplinary environments throught their schools and workplaces.
----- Original Message -----
From: "McIntyre" <mcintyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Panopticon Reversed
> this suggests that what happened is not the norm - jailers are the same
> everywhere in that they exploit the opportunity to exercise power over
> inmates - they are not educated or indoctrinated into behaving properly
but
> are subject to a variety of external constraints - the most trained
soldiers
> are often the most brutal and aggressive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lionel Boxer" <lboxer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:51 AM
> Subject: RE: Panopticon Reversed
>
>
> > The jailers were army reservists. Army reservists tend to meet for a
few
> > hours a week (recall George Bush's intermittent -virtually no existent -
> > service in the air force reserve). These people are not indoctrinated to
> the
> > same degree as regular army people - one of the risks of employing army
> > reservists in operations. It could be that they took photos of what
they
> > were doing to send to their friends at home. They are certainly not
> subject
> > to military gaze to the same degree as regular army solders.
> >
> > Definitely a subject that could be explored with Foucauldian concepts.