I was also surprised to see Dogville mentioned here. In fact , I wonder if
there are any movies that "illustrate" the theme. The examples I've seen
did't convince me. Mostly paranoid movies or individuals resisting. Maybe it
is more interesting to look at literature. Eco's name of the Rose was said
to be connected, I've just read Saramago, Hervé Guibert was close to him and
I remember Foucault talking about Ziniview Alexander...
d
appropriate sOn 22-07-2005 09:00, "Mark Kelly" <mgekelly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have to disagree with Machiel here - biopower is the government of
> populations. Foucault is extremely precise about the relation of
> biopower to discipline in Society Must Be Defended.
> The Truman Show is very interesting from a Foucauldian point of view,
> but I don't see a connection to biopower in Foucault's sense. Most of
> the other suggestion are, as Machiel correctly points, related to
> discipline not biopower, although of course discipline is in itself
> related to biopower. I don't see the relation of Dogville to biopower,
> either. Seemed rather Nietzschean to me, but Foucauldian themes I
> didn't discern. The fact is films are generally based at the level of
> individual protagonists, meaning populations rarely figure in them as
> such.
>
> Mark
>
> On 7/22/05, samata biswas <bsamata@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> machiel,
>> i think you were referring to "The Truman Show" with Jim Carrey in the lead.
>>
>> On 7/21/05, M. Karskens <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> The point of most answers is that discipline and biopolitcs almost are
>>> identified. In my opinion biopolitics is much more caring, pastoral and
>>> nomalizing than discipline. Dogville is a perfect example, and also the
>>> film about the boy/man who lives in a tv soap (I don't remember the name)
>>>
>>> machiel karskens
>>>
>>>
>>> At 18:26 19-7-2005, you wrote:
>>>> Oliver Hirschbiegel's 'Das Experiment' is a good one. A take on the
>>>> Stanford Prison Experiment. German with English subtitles.
>>>>
>>>> Simone
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> Faculty of Philosophy
>>> Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands
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there are any movies that "illustrate" the theme. The examples I've seen
did't convince me. Mostly paranoid movies or individuals resisting. Maybe it
is more interesting to look at literature. Eco's name of the Rose was said
to be connected, I've just read Saramago, Hervé Guibert was close to him and
I remember Foucault talking about Ziniview Alexander...
d
appropriate sOn 22-07-2005 09:00, "Mark Kelly" <mgekelly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have to disagree with Machiel here - biopower is the government of
> populations. Foucault is extremely precise about the relation of
> biopower to discipline in Society Must Be Defended.
> The Truman Show is very interesting from a Foucauldian point of view,
> but I don't see a connection to biopower in Foucault's sense. Most of
> the other suggestion are, as Machiel correctly points, related to
> discipline not biopower, although of course discipline is in itself
> related to biopower. I don't see the relation of Dogville to biopower,
> either. Seemed rather Nietzschean to me, but Foucauldian themes I
> didn't discern. The fact is films are generally based at the level of
> individual protagonists, meaning populations rarely figure in them as
> such.
>
> Mark
>
> On 7/22/05, samata biswas <bsamata@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> machiel,
>> i think you were referring to "The Truman Show" with Jim Carrey in the lead.
>>
>> On 7/21/05, M. Karskens <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> The point of most answers is that discipline and biopolitcs almost are
>>> identified. In my opinion biopolitics is much more caring, pastoral and
>>> nomalizing than discipline. Dogville is a perfect example, and also the
>>> film about the boy/man who lives in a tv soap (I don't remember the name)
>>>
>>> machiel karskens
>>>
>>>
>>> At 18:26 19-7-2005, you wrote:
>>>> Oliver Hirschbiegel's 'Das Experiment' is a good one. A take on the
>>>> Stanford Prison Experiment. German with English subtitles.
>>>>
>>>> Simone
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Foucault-L mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Machiel Karskens
>>> social and political philosophy
>>> Faculty of Philosophy
>>> Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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