And what does it say in DE about 'The Preface to the History of Sexuality, Volume Two'?
There is no note to the English translation in "The Foucault Reader;" and in Essential Works (Vol. 1), it simply states that Foucault replace it with a much longer text.
Regards,
Kevin.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: autrement@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:07:51 +0800
> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Maurice Florence
>
> PS:
>
> For those interested in such minutiae, I should clarify that, in fact,
> not
> all of the first sentence was written by Ewald - he only wrote the part
> up
> to the word "Kant" (in the English). The second part of the sentence,
> describing the work as a "critical history of thought" is by 'M.F.'
>
> Timothy
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Kevin Turner
> <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Dear Timothy,
>>
>> It may indeed have been your article in Foucault Studies in which I read
>> this. I have also read it on some on-line versions of this text, but
>> like I
>> said, I could find no note giving an explanation of where the claim came
>> from.
>>
>> The passage you cite does indeed provide this explanation, and is, as
>> you
>> say, about as "authoritative" as one could wish for.
>>
>> The reason I asked the question is that it seems to me that the three
>> texts
>> I mentioned, when read in conjunction, provide a very useful
>> intelligibility
>> key for understand Foucault. By that I do not mean that they form a
>> cypher
>> with which to unlock the enigmatic secrets of his books. But I do think
>> they
>> do offer a very useful description - both in terms of a retrospective of
>> his
>> previous work and in terms of how his last work relates to this - of how
>> to
>> understand what it was he was doing..
>>
>> Many thanks for providing me with this info., and special thanks for
>> doing
>> the translation (however roughly translated).
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: autrement@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:44 +0800
>>> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Maurice Florence
>>>
>>> Dear Kevin,
>>>
>>> I myself have actually made that claim somewhere in print! The
>>> 'evidence',
>>> such as it is, is in the note that appears in Dits et Ecrits before
>>> that
>>> selection. But, unfortunately the 'Essential Foucault' translation only
>>> gives us a greatly truncated version of that note.
>>>
>>> In French, in addition to the info given in the English version, we
>>> read
>>> (roughly translated): ...At that time, Foucault had written a first
>>> version
>>> of volume II of HS which he knew would need re-working. A part of the
>>> Introduction which he had written for this book was a retrospective
>>> presentation of his work. This was the text he gave to Denis Huisman,
>>> completed with a short presentation and a bibliography. It was decided
>>> to
>>> sign it 'Maurice Florence', which gave the obvious abbreviation
>>> 'M.F.'...
>>>
>>> According to further notes (in the French and English editions) only
>>> the
>>> first sentence of the published text was written by Francois Ewald -
>>> the
>>> rest was by 'M.F.'
>>>
>>> Since these notes were compiled by Francois Ewald and Daniel Defert, I
>>> take
>>> them to be as authoritative as one could wish for.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Timothy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Kevin Turner
>>> <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Foucault Listers,
>>>>
>>>> I have read that the self title essay by Foucault, published under the
>>>> pseudonym of Maurice Florence (EW2: 459-463), was the first of three
>>>> version
>>>> of what finally became the 'Introduction' to Vol. 2 of the "History of
>>>> Sexuality:" the second being 'The Preface to the History of Sexuality,
>>>> Volume Two' (EW1: 199-205); and the third being Chapter 1,
>>>> 'Modifications,'
>>>> of the actual 'Introduction' itself (UP: 3-13).
>>>>
>>>> The problem is, whilst I have read this, I have not come upon any
>>>> actual
>>>> evidence to support this claim – i.e. those who mention it cite no
>>>> references.
>>>>
>>>> My question, then, is, firstly, are these text three version of the
>>>> same
>>>> introduction; and, secondly, where might I find evidence to support
>>>> this
>>>> claim.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Kevin.
>>>>
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There is no note to the English translation in "The Foucault Reader;" and in Essential Works (Vol. 1), it simply states that Foucault replace it with a much longer text.
Regards,
Kevin.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: autrement@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:07:51 +0800
> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Maurice Florence
>
> PS:
>
> For those interested in such minutiae, I should clarify that, in fact,
> not
> all of the first sentence was written by Ewald - he only wrote the part
> up
> to the word "Kant" (in the English). The second part of the sentence,
> describing the work as a "critical history of thought" is by 'M.F.'
>
> Timothy
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Kevin Turner
> <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Dear Timothy,
>>
>> It may indeed have been your article in Foucault Studies in which I read
>> this. I have also read it on some on-line versions of this text, but
>> like I
>> said, I could find no note giving an explanation of where the claim came
>> from.
>>
>> The passage you cite does indeed provide this explanation, and is, as
>> you
>> say, about as "authoritative" as one could wish for.
>>
>> The reason I asked the question is that it seems to me that the three
>> texts
>> I mentioned, when read in conjunction, provide a very useful
>> intelligibility
>> key for understand Foucault. By that I do not mean that they form a
>> cypher
>> with which to unlock the enigmatic secrets of his books. But I do think
>> they
>> do offer a very useful description - both in terms of a retrospective of
>> his
>> previous work and in terms of how his last work relates to this - of how
>> to
>> understand what it was he was doing..
>>
>> Many thanks for providing me with this info., and special thanks for
>> doing
>> the translation (however roughly translated).
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: autrement@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:44 +0800
>>> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Maurice Florence
>>>
>>> Dear Kevin,
>>>
>>> I myself have actually made that claim somewhere in print! The
>>> 'evidence',
>>> such as it is, is in the note that appears in Dits et Ecrits before
>>> that
>>> selection. But, unfortunately the 'Essential Foucault' translation only
>>> gives us a greatly truncated version of that note.
>>>
>>> In French, in addition to the info given in the English version, we
>>> read
>>> (roughly translated): ...At that time, Foucault had written a first
>>> version
>>> of volume II of HS which he knew would need re-working. A part of the
>>> Introduction which he had written for this book was a retrospective
>>> presentation of his work. This was the text he gave to Denis Huisman,
>>> completed with a short presentation and a bibliography. It was decided
>>> to
>>> sign it 'Maurice Florence', which gave the obvious abbreviation
>>> 'M.F.'...
>>>
>>> According to further notes (in the French and English editions) only
>>> the
>>> first sentence of the published text was written by Francois Ewald -
>>> the
>>> rest was by 'M.F.'
>>>
>>> Since these notes were compiled by Francois Ewald and Daniel Defert, I
>>> take
>>> them to be as authoritative as one could wish for.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Timothy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Kevin Turner
>>> <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Foucault Listers,
>>>>
>>>> I have read that the self title essay by Foucault, published under the
>>>> pseudonym of Maurice Florence (EW2: 459-463), was the first of three
>>>> version
>>>> of what finally became the 'Introduction' to Vol. 2 of the "History of
>>>> Sexuality:" the second being 'The Preface to the History of Sexuality,
>>>> Volume Two' (EW1: 199-205); and the third being Chapter 1,
>>>> 'Modifications,'
>>>> of the actual 'Introduction' itself (UP: 3-13).
>>>>
>>>> The problem is, whilst I have read this, I have not come upon any
>>>> actual
>>>> evidence to support this claim – i.e. those who mention it cite no
>>>> references.
>>>>
>>>> My question, then, is, firstly, are these text three version of the
>>>> same
>>>> introduction; and, secondly, where might I find evidence to support
>>>> this
>>>> claim.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Kevin.
>>>>
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