Op 18-apr-97 schreef COLIN WIGHT:
>OK, and 'm' I am not trying to pick a fight, but the claim that:
>>The vegetarianism here is a self-imposed limit
>>whose crossability seems to me to be inherent in the very fact of its being
>>conciously self-imposed.
>Totally misses the point and posits a level of 'freedom of subjectivity'
>that is simply untenable. Many of my friends are vegetarians, as I interact
>with them their beliefs and practices enable and constrain mine as do mine
>theirs. The social is always in the individual as a product-in-process and
>decisions are never purely the result of self-imposition or otherwise.
this is also my experience
>Equally, is 'rock bitch's' performance a performance or is it for real? If
>it is for real then it may constitute your notion of a transgression. But if
>it is a cynical marketing ploy then does the same apply. But how would you
>know if the orgasms are real or not?
to the performers it's very important that it's real, in the sense that
everybody believes it is, it's part of their message, it justifies to them
what they're doing and why.
erikh
>OK, and 'm' I am not trying to pick a fight, but the claim that:
>>The vegetarianism here is a self-imposed limit
>>whose crossability seems to me to be inherent in the very fact of its being
>>conciously self-imposed.
>Totally misses the point and posits a level of 'freedom of subjectivity'
>that is simply untenable. Many of my friends are vegetarians, as I interact
>with them their beliefs and practices enable and constrain mine as do mine
>theirs. The social is always in the individual as a product-in-process and
>decisions are never purely the result of self-imposition or otherwise.
this is also my experience
>Equally, is 'rock bitch's' performance a performance or is it for real? If
>it is for real then it may constitute your notion of a transgression. But if
>it is a cynical marketing ploy then does the same apply. But how would you
>know if the orgasms are real or not?
to the performers it's very important that it's real, in the sense that
everybody believes it is, it's part of their message, it justifies to them
what they're doing and why.
erikh