I think John's citation from Mulhall is useful here, as is his commentary.
Following Theodore Kisiel's excellent The Genesis of H's Being and Time I
think that 'existentialism' is a misleading term when applied to Heidegger.
The existential language of B&T was added at a very late stage,
superficially turning it into a book of existential philosophy. H's earlier
lecture courses, which paved the way for this book, do not have this
language. His later lecture courses seem to be a distancing from this.
Yet another of H's 'blunders'?
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: John S. Ransom <dickinson@xxxxxxxxx>
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 18:55
Subject: R: Dasien, a question
>Stephen Mulhall in his excellent _Heidegger and "Being and Time"_
>(Routledge: New York, 1996) introduces the term "Dasein" this way:
>
>"Heidegger's reasons for introducing the term 'Dasein' -- which translated
>literally, simply means 'there-being' -- where it would seem natural to
talk
>instead about human beings, are manifold. First, in everyday German usage,
>this term does tend to refer to human beings, but primarily with respect to
>the type of Being that is distinctive of them; it therefore gives his
>investigation the right ontological ring. Second, it permits him to avoid
>using other terms that philosophers have tended to regard as synonymous
with
>'human being', and have concentrated upon to the point at which they trail
>clouds of complex and potentially misleading theorizing. Time-hallowed
terms
>such as 'subjectivity', 'consciousness', 'spirit' or 'soul' could only be
>prejudicial to Heidegger's enquiry. Third, and consenquently, an unusual
>term such as 'Dasein' is a *tabula rasa*: devoid of misleading
implications,
>it can accrue all and only the significations that Heidegger intends to
>attach to it." (Stephen Mulhall, _Heidegger and "Being and Time"_
Routledge,
>New York, 1996, p. 14.)
>
>At least according to Mulhall, then, Heidegger does not intend to attach a
>particularly existentialist meaning to Dasein. Nor does this term refer to
>something like authenticity. Dasein is not opposed to something less
>authentic or more alienated. Instead, all forms of being, authentic or not,
>are covered by the term.
>
>--John
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: Matthew Thrond <mthrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>A: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Data: Monday, January 18, 1999 1:09 AM
>Oggetto: Re: Dasien, a question
>
>
>>There is an interesting book from the seventies which may assist you.
>>"The Crisis of Autonomy: The Existentialist Critique of Freud" by Gerald
>>N. Izenberg might be a place to start. While it does not address
>>Foucault per se, it might be a starting place; it seems to me you are
>>really intersecting three things, namely psychoanalysis, existentialism
>>(the book discusses Heidegger and Sartre), and Foucault. Don't be sad,
>>'cause two out of three ain't bad, ja?
>>
>>Good luck,
>>MT
>>
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>>>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:22:06 -0700 (MST)
>>>From: Krueger <Patrick.Krueger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Dasien, a question
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>>>Do you mind if I ask you a question?
>>>
>>>I have recently become interested in the idea of "Dasein" (after
>>>Heidegger) as a possible method or perspective for inquiry into social
>>>phenomena.
>>>
>>>The introduction by Dreyfus in Foucault's "Mental Illness and
>>Psychology"
>>>indicated that 1) Foucault used this method as a critique of
>>>psychoanalysis, and 2) this work was not necessarily typical of
>>Foucalt's
>>>later works. Not being very familiar with Foucault I'm not sure what
>>to
>>>make of that disclaimer, but the idea interests me nonetheless,...
>>>
>>>So first of all, does anyone know of a good accessable description of
>>the
>>>concept of Dasein, and second, does anyone know of a few good works by
>>any
>>>author that demonstrates the use of this Dasein in practice?
>>>
>>>Many thanks,
>>>
>>>PMK
>>>
>>>"Why no officer, that isn't my smoking gun in my hand. Why do you
>>ask?"
>>>
>>> --Onan, son of Judah (Gen 38:9)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Following Theodore Kisiel's excellent The Genesis of H's Being and Time I
think that 'existentialism' is a misleading term when applied to Heidegger.
The existential language of B&T was added at a very late stage,
superficially turning it into a book of existential philosophy. H's earlier
lecture courses, which paved the way for this book, do not have this
language. His later lecture courses seem to be a distancing from this.
Yet another of H's 'blunders'?
Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: John S. Ransom <dickinson@xxxxxxxxx>
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 18:55
Subject: R: Dasien, a question
>Stephen Mulhall in his excellent _Heidegger and "Being and Time"_
>(Routledge: New York, 1996) introduces the term "Dasein" this way:
>
>"Heidegger's reasons for introducing the term 'Dasein' -- which translated
>literally, simply means 'there-being' -- where it would seem natural to
talk
>instead about human beings, are manifold. First, in everyday German usage,
>this term does tend to refer to human beings, but primarily with respect to
>the type of Being that is distinctive of them; it therefore gives his
>investigation the right ontological ring. Second, it permits him to avoid
>using other terms that philosophers have tended to regard as synonymous
with
>'human being', and have concentrated upon to the point at which they trail
>clouds of complex and potentially misleading theorizing. Time-hallowed
terms
>such as 'subjectivity', 'consciousness', 'spirit' or 'soul' could only be
>prejudicial to Heidegger's enquiry. Third, and consenquently, an unusual
>term such as 'Dasein' is a *tabula rasa*: devoid of misleading
implications,
>it can accrue all and only the significations that Heidegger intends to
>attach to it." (Stephen Mulhall, _Heidegger and "Being and Time"_
Routledge,
>New York, 1996, p. 14.)
>
>At least according to Mulhall, then, Heidegger does not intend to attach a
>particularly existentialist meaning to Dasein. Nor does this term refer to
>something like authenticity. Dasein is not opposed to something less
>authentic or more alienated. Instead, all forms of being, authentic or not,
>are covered by the term.
>
>--John
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: Matthew Thrond <mthrond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>A: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Data: Monday, January 18, 1999 1:09 AM
>Oggetto: Re: Dasien, a question
>
>
>>There is an interesting book from the seventies which may assist you.
>>"The Crisis of Autonomy: The Existentialist Critique of Freud" by Gerald
>>N. Izenberg might be a place to start. While it does not address
>>Foucault per se, it might be a starting place; it seems to me you are
>>really intersecting three things, namely psychoanalysis, existentialism
>>(the book discusses Heidegger and Sartre), and Foucault. Don't be sad,
>>'cause two out of three ain't bad, ja?
>>
>>Good luck,
>>MT
>>
>>>From owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sun Jan 17 14:56:39 1999
>>>Received: (from domo@localhost) by lists.village.virginia.edu
>>(8.8.5/8.6.6) id RAA28764 for foucault-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999
>>17:22:21 -0500
>>>X-Authentication-Warning: lists.village.virginia.edu: domo set sender
>>to owner-foucault@localhost using -f
>>>Received: from sobek.Colorado.EDU (krueger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[128.138.151.62]) by lists.village.virginia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP
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>>17:22:09 -0500
>>>Received: from localhost (krueger@localhost)
>>> by sobek.Colorado.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18284
>>> for <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:22:07
>>-0700 (MST)
>>>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:22:06 -0700 (MST)
>>>From: Krueger <Patrick.Krueger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Dasien, a question
>>>In-Reply-To: <19990117210412.5760.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Message-ID:
>><Pine.GSO.4.05.9901171509090.18025-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>Sender: owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Precedence: bulk
>>>Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you mind if I ask you a question?
>>>
>>>I have recently become interested in the idea of "Dasein" (after
>>>Heidegger) as a possible method or perspective for inquiry into social
>>>phenomena.
>>>
>>>The introduction by Dreyfus in Foucault's "Mental Illness and
>>Psychology"
>>>indicated that 1) Foucault used this method as a critique of
>>>psychoanalysis, and 2) this work was not necessarily typical of
>>Foucalt's
>>>later works. Not being very familiar with Foucault I'm not sure what
>>to
>>>make of that disclaimer, but the idea interests me nonetheless,...
>>>
>>>So first of all, does anyone know of a good accessable description of
>>the
>>>concept of Dasein, and second, does anyone know of a few good works by
>>any
>>>author that demonstrates the use of this Dasein in practice?
>>>
>>>Many thanks,
>>>
>>>PMK
>>>
>>>"Why no officer, that isn't my smoking gun in my hand. Why do you
>>ask?"
>>>
>>> --Onan, son of Judah (Gen 38:9)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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