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Zhivko
--- Clifford Duffy <cwduff@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Red Hot Chili Peppers fans...
>
> by Nigel Parry
>
> Nigel Parry worked at Birzeit University between
> 1994 and 1998. His
> journal
> from the time, A Personal Diary of the Israeli
> Palestinian Conflict,
> available
> at nigelparry.com/diary, documented the post-Oslo
> experience of
> Palestinians in the Ramallah area. He is also one
> of the founders of
> electronicIntifada.net,"a resource for countering
> myth, distortion, and
> spin
> from the Israeli media war machine."
>
>
>
> The following e-mail was sent out on 6 July 2001
> to several
> Red Hot Chili Peppers mailing lists, and posted
> on several
> bulletin boards relating to the band. The best
> way to raise an
> issue outside of the usual audience remains...
> raising the
> issue outside the usual audience. A protest
> address is
> included for those who wish to write their own
> letters to the
> band.
>
> Dear Red Hot Chili Peppers fans,
>
> I understand that this message probably isn't the
> kind you're used to on
> the list, but I
> ask you consider the contents of it thoughtfully.
>
> All of you will remember that when South Africa
> was still operating under
> an
> Apartheid system, bands used to refuse to play
> there. Sun City, the most
> famous
> venue there, was the subject of at least one
> protest song.
>
> Bands wouldn't play there because to do so
> generated income for the White
> South
> African system, and implicitly suggested that
> they didn't really mind
> that a racist
> government had stamped their entry visa. The
> taxes that were paid on the
> venue by
> the promoters went towards prolonging Apartheid,
> and the venue -- of
> course -- was
> "for whites only".
>
> Sadly, the Red Hot Chili Peppers are turning the
> clock of musical
> conscience back
> by playing in Israel. This venue will similarly
> be "for Israelis only".
> All 3 million
> Palestinians are prevented by Israel from
> travelling to Tel Aviv and are
> currently
> under siege in their towns.
>
> Recent news reports said that the Chili Peppers
> had decided not to go
> because they
> were worried about the "security situation." When
> he heard about this,
> Bill Clinton
> rang them and urged them to go, and they changed
> their mind. They are
> playing on
> August 28 in Tel Aviv:
> http://redhotchilipeppers.com/tour/
>
> Here's the news piece:
>
> "Clinton has the Red Hot Chili Peppers for
> Israel"
> The Jerusalem Post, 3 June 2001
>
> One of the biggest rock bands in the world
> today was about to cancel
> its planned concert in Tel Aviv, until a
> former American president
> intervened. That, at least, is according to
> the Hebrew daily Yediot
> Aharonot.
>
> The paper suggests that Red Hot Chili
> Peppers was considering the
> move because of the security situation.
>
> Former president Bill Clinton reportedly
> heard of the plan and
> personally called the band's lead singer
> Anthony Kiedis to suggest
> the
> concert go ahead.
>
> Clinton said the performance would be a vote
> of confidence in the
> diplomatic process and regional peace.
>
> As a result, the band will play on.
>
> The concert is scheduled for Tel Aviv on
> August 28.
>
> I have nothing against the band but am writing to
> you on principle
> because they are
> setting an unacceptable example for the millions
> of people who love their
> music.
> There is nothing at all wrong with asking them as
> fans to reconsider this
> tour date on
> the basis of supporting human rights for all.
>
> Why exactly is their playing in Israel a bad
> idea?
>
> The news here gives the impression that the
> Israeli-Palestinian conflict
> is some sort of
> war between equal forces, that all Palestinians
> are terrorists, and that
> poor Israel has
> done all it could to make peace with the
> Palestinians.
>
> This is as far from the truth as it could be.
>
> Palestinians have been living under a military
> occupation for 34 years.
> If you were
> Palestinian, and under 34 years of age, all you
> would know is the
> presence of a
> foreign army in and around your towns.
>
> I had the opportunity to experience what that was
> like between 1994-1998,
> when I
> lived in the West Bank town of Ramallah and
> worked at Birzeit University,
> Palestine's
> Harvard or Oxford.
>
> Life there on the ground was bad news for Joe or
> Jane Palestinian, who
> you should
> be aware are not any different from Joe or Jane
> American or Joe or Jane
> European.
> The shocking but banal truth is that the vast
> majority of Palestinians
> are normal
> people just like you and me, living in an
> abnormal situation.
>
> Just as Americans aren't responsible as a whole
> for the actions of people
> like Timothy
> McVeigh, neither are the Palestinians as a whole
> responsible for the
> actions of the
> few of them who carry out terrorist acts.
>
> After the Oslo process began in 1993, the reality
> is that things got very
> bad on the
> ground for normal people. Very bad. Most human
> rights violations
> continued or
> worsened. And today, it's even much worse.
>
> Since 29 September 2000, when the Second Intifada
> began, Israel has
> killed over
> 500 Palestinians, crippled 1,500 more, and
> seriously injured another
> 15,000. Many
> of these are children. About half of these deaths
> and injuries took place
> out outside of
> clash situations. That means it happened to
> people
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Zhivko
--- Clifford Duffy <cwduff@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Red Hot Chili Peppers fans...
>
> by Nigel Parry
>
> Nigel Parry worked at Birzeit University between
> 1994 and 1998. His
> journal
> from the time, A Personal Diary of the Israeli
> Palestinian Conflict,
> available
> at nigelparry.com/diary, documented the post-Oslo
> experience of
> Palestinians in the Ramallah area. He is also one
> of the founders of
> electronicIntifada.net,"a resource for countering
> myth, distortion, and
> spin
> from the Israeli media war machine."
>
>
>
> The following e-mail was sent out on 6 July 2001
> to several
> Red Hot Chili Peppers mailing lists, and posted
> on several
> bulletin boards relating to the band. The best
> way to raise an
> issue outside of the usual audience remains...
> raising the
> issue outside the usual audience. A protest
> address is
> included for those who wish to write their own
> letters to the
> band.
>
> Dear Red Hot Chili Peppers fans,
>
> I understand that this message probably isn't the
> kind you're used to on
> the list, but I
> ask you consider the contents of it thoughtfully.
>
> All of you will remember that when South Africa
> was still operating under
> an
> Apartheid system, bands used to refuse to play
> there. Sun City, the most
> famous
> venue there, was the subject of at least one
> protest song.
>
> Bands wouldn't play there because to do so
> generated income for the White
> South
> African system, and implicitly suggested that
> they didn't really mind
> that a racist
> government had stamped their entry visa. The
> taxes that were paid on the
> venue by
> the promoters went towards prolonging Apartheid,
> and the venue -- of
> course -- was
> "for whites only".
>
> Sadly, the Red Hot Chili Peppers are turning the
> clock of musical
> conscience back
> by playing in Israel. This venue will similarly
> be "for Israelis only".
> All 3 million
> Palestinians are prevented by Israel from
> travelling to Tel Aviv and are
> currently
> under siege in their towns.
>
> Recent news reports said that the Chili Peppers
> had decided not to go
> because they
> were worried about the "security situation." When
> he heard about this,
> Bill Clinton
> rang them and urged them to go, and they changed
> their mind. They are
> playing on
> August 28 in Tel Aviv:
> http://redhotchilipeppers.com/tour/
>
> Here's the news piece:
>
> "Clinton has the Red Hot Chili Peppers for
> Israel"
> The Jerusalem Post, 3 June 2001
>
> One of the biggest rock bands in the world
> today was about to cancel
> its planned concert in Tel Aviv, until a
> former American president
> intervened. That, at least, is according to
> the Hebrew daily Yediot
> Aharonot.
>
> The paper suggests that Red Hot Chili
> Peppers was considering the
> move because of the security situation.
>
> Former president Bill Clinton reportedly
> heard of the plan and
> personally called the band's lead singer
> Anthony Kiedis to suggest
> the
> concert go ahead.
>
> Clinton said the performance would be a vote
> of confidence in the
> diplomatic process and regional peace.
>
> As a result, the band will play on.
>
> The concert is scheduled for Tel Aviv on
> August 28.
>
> I have nothing against the band but am writing to
> you on principle
> because they are
> setting an unacceptable example for the millions
> of people who love their
> music.
> There is nothing at all wrong with asking them as
> fans to reconsider this
> tour date on
> the basis of supporting human rights for all.
>
> Why exactly is their playing in Israel a bad
> idea?
>
> The news here gives the impression that the
> Israeli-Palestinian conflict
> is some sort of
> war between equal forces, that all Palestinians
> are terrorists, and that
> poor Israel has
> done all it could to make peace with the
> Palestinians.
>
> This is as far from the truth as it could be.
>
> Palestinians have been living under a military
> occupation for 34 years.
> If you were
> Palestinian, and under 34 years of age, all you
> would know is the
> presence of a
> foreign army in and around your towns.
>
> I had the opportunity to experience what that was
> like between 1994-1998,
> when I
> lived in the West Bank town of Ramallah and
> worked at Birzeit University,
> Palestine's
> Harvard or Oxford.
>
> Life there on the ground was bad news for Joe or
> Jane Palestinian, who
> you should
> be aware are not any different from Joe or Jane
> American or Joe or Jane
> European.
> The shocking but banal truth is that the vast
> majority of Palestinians
> are normal
> people just like you and me, living in an
> abnormal situation.
>
> Just as Americans aren't responsible as a whole
> for the actions of people
> like Timothy
> McVeigh, neither are the Palestinians as a whole
> responsible for the
> actions of the
> few of them who carry out terrorist acts.
>
> After the Oslo process began in 1993, the reality
> is that things got very
> bad on the
> ground for normal people. Very bad. Most human
> rights violations
> continued or
> worsened. And today, it's even much worse.
>
> Since 29 September 2000, when the Second Intifada
> began, Israel has
> killed over
> 500 Palestinians, crippled 1,500 more, and
> seriously injured another
> 15,000. Many
> of these are children. About half of these deaths
> and injuries took place
> out outside of
> clash situations. That means it happened to
> people
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