In what logic You'll be caught if everyday a mad arab
is running around with bomb in your country?
If it was up to the arabs, the israel people should be
placed in a tiny place somewhere in the desert,
everything else belongs to them.
And again, You are not philosopphers. The philosopher
knows that the reality is realy complicated and never
is that simple, to be expresed in the terms of the
racism. Remember this : racism was invented in the
west, to the rest of the world it is unknown. The
ethnic cleansing and the racism is invented and
belongs to the culture of the west, so the west wants
to recognise in the rest of the wrold some racism,
without to think about the fact , that the rest of the
world is completely disaware about the meaning of it.
Zhivko Georgiev
--- Erik Hoogcarspel <jehms@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Come on, Jivko, the world's not made out of myths.
>
> 1. It's safer outside Israel then inside for any
> human being.
> 2. There's no reason why anyone should have the
> right to occupy the
> place where one of his ancestors used to live.
> 3. Originally most of the jews came from Egypt so
> why don't they
> wanna go back there?
> 4. Before we all came from Africa, you wanna go?
>
> It's clear that the Israeli's are caught up in some
> logic of violence
> and fear. There's room enough for everybody in that
> bloody desert out
> there, but they just keep on casing each other. It
> has to do with some
> tribal ideology evoked by religious feelings. Irony:
> they do almost the
> same to the Palestines as the Nazi's did to them
> (the method of the
> 'final solution'). Is it because of religion?
>
> erik
>
> Jivko Georgiev wrote:
>
> > "Well, from a Foucauldina perspective, I would
> think
> >
> >> its because they have accepted the very model of
> >> biopower and war of the races that justified the
> >> holocaust."
> >
> >
> > Isnt that the most absurdious and rediculious
> > statement in the history? I think it is.Man, i
> havent
> > seen whole my life such horrorble statemnt.
> > Congratualations. I lost my words, sorry..
> > This guys in israel have that statemnt as a basis
> of
> > the Israeli politics - A Jewish is nowhere in the
> > world safe, except in Israel. Thats what they do -
> All
> > the land they are into now belongs to israel since
> > maaaany maaany years. Long ago, when the celts
> were
> > living still on the branches of the trees. The
> arabs
> > settled in these places in the middle ages. What
> > philosophers You are, when you know as much as a
> > nonphilosophers know. The crusaders fighted the
> arabs,
> > whole europe fighted the arabs, the arabs are
> > expansive, they settle in a land and pretend allah
> > gave them that land.
> > Guys, you are all nuts! What is this racism, what
> is
> > this biopower. You are notr philosophers, You are
> just
> > ordinary citizns of usa and so on, you are not
> much
> > different than the midle american, to whom only
> CNN
> > can tell who is right and who not.And only CNN can
> > tell What is What, which is philosophical
> problems.
> >
> > Regards!
> > Zhivko Georgiev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Allen Miller <millerpa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> jehms@xxxxxxxxxxxx 07/14/01 12:27 PM >>>
> >>>>
> >> Allen I always get your mail in stereo.>>
> >>
> >> Sorry, I think it might be because I'm responding
> to
> >> people posting simultaneously to the Deleuze and
> the
> >> Foucault list.
> >>
> >> Allen Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm with Nate. The problem isn't the articles
> or
> >>
> >> their political content. If you look at
> Foucault's
> >> political statments. They are very meticulously
> >> argued and well documented (whether you agree
> with
> >> them or not). He would be the last person who
> would
> >> think merely quoting a newspaper article was in
> >> itself a political statement. This is not to
> favor
> >> intellectual masturbation. Rather it's because
> a)
> >> documents never speak for themselves and b) the
> >> issues are too important not to be engaged in a
> >> thoughtful manner.
> >>
> >>> By the way, you're right. The Israeli army is
> >>
> >> capable of anything.
> >>
> >> Interesting question might be: 'How come?'
> >>
> >>
> >> Allen
> >>
> >
> >
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is running around with bomb in your country?
If it was up to the arabs, the israel people should be
placed in a tiny place somewhere in the desert,
everything else belongs to them.
And again, You are not philosopphers. The philosopher
knows that the reality is realy complicated and never
is that simple, to be expresed in the terms of the
racism. Remember this : racism was invented in the
west, to the rest of the world it is unknown. The
ethnic cleansing and the racism is invented and
belongs to the culture of the west, so the west wants
to recognise in the rest of the wrold some racism,
without to think about the fact , that the rest of the
world is completely disaware about the meaning of it.
Zhivko Georgiev
--- Erik Hoogcarspel <jehms@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Come on, Jivko, the world's not made out of myths.
>
> 1. It's safer outside Israel then inside for any
> human being.
> 2. There's no reason why anyone should have the
> right to occupy the
> place where one of his ancestors used to live.
> 3. Originally most of the jews came from Egypt so
> why don't they
> wanna go back there?
> 4. Before we all came from Africa, you wanna go?
>
> It's clear that the Israeli's are caught up in some
> logic of violence
> and fear. There's room enough for everybody in that
> bloody desert out
> there, but they just keep on casing each other. It
> has to do with some
> tribal ideology evoked by religious feelings. Irony:
> they do almost the
> same to the Palestines as the Nazi's did to them
> (the method of the
> 'final solution'). Is it because of religion?
>
> erik
>
> Jivko Georgiev wrote:
>
> > "Well, from a Foucauldina perspective, I would
> think
> >
> >> its because they have accepted the very model of
> >> biopower and war of the races that justified the
> >> holocaust."
> >
> >
> > Isnt that the most absurdious and rediculious
> > statement in the history? I think it is.Man, i
> havent
> > seen whole my life such horrorble statemnt.
> > Congratualations. I lost my words, sorry..
> > This guys in israel have that statemnt as a basis
> of
> > the Israeli politics - A Jewish is nowhere in the
> > world safe, except in Israel. Thats what they do -
> All
> > the land they are into now belongs to israel since
> > maaaany maaany years. Long ago, when the celts
> were
> > living still on the branches of the trees. The
> arabs
> > settled in these places in the middle ages. What
> > philosophers You are, when you know as much as a
> > nonphilosophers know. The crusaders fighted the
> arabs,
> > whole europe fighted the arabs, the arabs are
> > expansive, they settle in a land and pretend allah
> > gave them that land.
> > Guys, you are all nuts! What is this racism, what
> is
> > this biopower. You are notr philosophers, You are
> just
> > ordinary citizns of usa and so on, you are not
> much
> > different than the midle american, to whom only
> CNN
> > can tell who is right and who not.And only CNN can
> > tell What is What, which is philosophical
> problems.
> >
> > Regards!
> > Zhivko Georgiev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Allen Miller <millerpa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> jehms@xxxxxxxxxxxx 07/14/01 12:27 PM >>>
> >>>>
> >> Allen I always get your mail in stereo.>>
> >>
> >> Sorry, I think it might be because I'm responding
> to
> >> people posting simultaneously to the Deleuze and
> the
> >> Foucault list.
> >>
> >> Allen Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm with Nate. The problem isn't the articles
> or
> >>
> >> their political content. If you look at
> Foucault's
> >> political statments. They are very meticulously
> >> argued and well documented (whether you agree
> with
> >> them or not). He would be the last person who
> would
> >> think merely quoting a newspaper article was in
> >> itself a political statement. This is not to
> favor
> >> intellectual masturbation. Rather it's because
> a)
> >> documents never speak for themselves and b) the
> >> issues are too important not to be engaged in a
> >> thoughtful manner.
> >>
> >>> By the way, you're right. The Israeli army is
> >>
> >> capable of anything.
> >>
> >> Interesting question might be: 'How come?'
> >>
> >>
> >> Allen
> >>
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail
> > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
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