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<DIV></DIV>Rather than a 'moral' order, I like the notion of order as a way of
<DIV></DIV>understanding capitalism. There are some very valuable remarks about order,
<DIV></DIV>calculation, measurement and mathesis in The Order of Things, and these seem
<DIV></DIV>to be valuable in reading Discipline and Punish. In the lecture course 'Il
<DIV></DIV>faut defendre la societe' the politicising of The Order of Things is very
<DIV></DIV>much in evidence.
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<DIV>I agree with the above comments. And I should correct my self as to my comments about Foucault's use of 'moral' order, which I think is mainly confined to MC. Although I think the term 'moral' oder is useful in another context in order to dispel the pretentions about the 'value neutrality' of accumulation processes (I am thinking here for example of Rawl's argument about primary goods and their relation to liberal order in general).</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>Rather than a 'moral' order, I like the notion of order as a way of
<DIV></DIV>understanding capitalism. There are some very valuable remarks about order,
<DIV></DIV>calculation, measurement and mathesis in The Order of Things, and these seem
<DIV></DIV>to be valuable in reading Discipline and Punish. In the lecture course 'Il
<DIV></DIV>faut defendre la societe' the politicising of The Order of Things is very
<DIV></DIV>much in evidence.
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<DIV>Stuart</DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with the above comments. And I should correct my self as to my comments about Foucault's use of 'moral' order, which I think is mainly confined to MC. Although I think the term 'moral' oder is useful in another context in order to dispel the pretentions about the 'value neutrality' of accumulation processes (I am thinking here for example of Rawl's argument about primary goods and their relation to liberal order in general).</DIV>
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<DIV>regards</DIV>
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