Nairda,
>Besides i do not want you to post out of the forum...
You're free to post any of your replies to the list if you feel if it will
be of benefit to them, along with my message that it is in reply to in order
to give it context. I, however, will excercise my judgement in whether
others will gain anything from the exchange.
>Foucault said that should be no hesitation that scientia sexualis will
> >versus ars erotica...
I respect that English is probably not your first language but some of your
apperently grand observations do not follow proper grammer, making it
difficult to ascertain what you are trying to say. Can you expand on your
interpretation of what Foucault said?
>So, every form of sexual art will slam a critique ( In utero is not a
> >critique, it is just the efect of its composition that interfere with
> >your thought) to the ortodox implicance of a scientia sexualis...
How can you make such blanket statements like "every form of sexual art will
slam a critique"? There are many forms of sexual art. How can you claim
what Madonna has done with In Utero. Madonna's work over the years is a
tradition confession to the incitement to discourse, while In Utero is as
much confession as Foucoult's own work is an confession, which is to say I
do not think it is. Sure, they both deal with sex, but they function as a
critique. I do not think Kurt Cobain ever read Foucoult, but that does not
mean he was unfamiliar with effects of scientia sexualis.
If a real intellectual exchange is anathma to you, I understand.
best,
John
>From: nairda oremor <oxanairda@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: John Patrick <panoptician@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Scientia Sexualis
>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:12:17 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
> I wont patrick... I do not want to be bottled up on that sort of
>discussion... Your assertion was not a discovery: Foucault said that should
>be no hesitation that scientia sexualis will versus ars erotica... So,
>every form of sexual art will slam a critique ( In utero is not a critique,
>it is just the efect of its composition that interfere with your thought)
>to the ortodox implicance of a scientia sexualis... You are trying to
>provoque me, but i wont be part of your game...You seem to believe that
>knowledge could be reached out from a external cultural centered occidental
>circuit -mostly eurpean-... For me that so pouser!!
>Besides i do not want you to post out of the forum...i do not agree with
>that and i never allowed you to do that...Futher i prefer to write whatever
>you want i the forum in order to not segmentize the discussion and to share
>it to the otherones on the list.
>thanks!
>adr
>
> John Patrick <panoptician@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribi: You can't or you won't?
>
>
> >From: nairda oremor
> >To: John Patrick
>
> >Subject: Re: Scientia Sexualis
> >Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:45:36 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> > > Could you expand on this parenthetical statement?
> >
> > (no)
> >
> > > I stopped listening to Nirvana and most other rock
> > > music a long time ago but
> > > I'm still interested in it in terms of its influence
> > > on society.
> >
> >That is very good!!! keep on burning your interests!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >adr
> >
> >_________________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Informacin de Estados Unidos y Amrica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias.
> >Vistanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, Amrica Latina y el resto del
>Mundo.
>Vista Yahoo! Noticias.
_________________________________________________________________
Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com
>Besides i do not want you to post out of the forum...
You're free to post any of your replies to the list if you feel if it will
be of benefit to them, along with my message that it is in reply to in order
to give it context. I, however, will excercise my judgement in whether
others will gain anything from the exchange.
>Foucault said that should be no hesitation that scientia sexualis will
> >versus ars erotica...
I respect that English is probably not your first language but some of your
apperently grand observations do not follow proper grammer, making it
difficult to ascertain what you are trying to say. Can you expand on your
interpretation of what Foucault said?
>So, every form of sexual art will slam a critique ( In utero is not a
> >critique, it is just the efect of its composition that interfere with
> >your thought) to the ortodox implicance of a scientia sexualis...
How can you make such blanket statements like "every form of sexual art will
slam a critique"? There are many forms of sexual art. How can you claim
what Madonna has done with In Utero. Madonna's work over the years is a
tradition confession to the incitement to discourse, while In Utero is as
much confession as Foucoult's own work is an confession, which is to say I
do not think it is. Sure, they both deal with sex, but they function as a
critique. I do not think Kurt Cobain ever read Foucoult, but that does not
mean he was unfamiliar with effects of scientia sexualis.
If a real intellectual exchange is anathma to you, I understand.
best,
John
>From: nairda oremor <oxanairda@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: John Patrick <panoptician@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Scientia Sexualis
>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 18:12:17 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
> I wont patrick... I do not want to be bottled up on that sort of
>discussion... Your assertion was not a discovery: Foucault said that should
>be no hesitation that scientia sexualis will versus ars erotica... So,
>every form of sexual art will slam a critique ( In utero is not a critique,
>it is just the efect of its composition that interfere with your thought)
>to the ortodox implicance of a scientia sexualis... You are trying to
>provoque me, but i wont be part of your game...You seem to believe that
>knowledge could be reached out from a external cultural centered occidental
>circuit -mostly eurpean-... For me that so pouser!!
>Besides i do not want you to post out of the forum...i do not agree with
>that and i never allowed you to do that...Futher i prefer to write whatever
>you want i the forum in order to not segmentize the discussion and to share
>it to the otherones on the list.
>thanks!
>adr
>
> John Patrick <panoptician@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribi: You can't or you won't?
>
>
> >From: nairda oremor
> >To: John Patrick
>
> >Subject: Re: Scientia Sexualis
> >Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:45:36 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> > > Could you expand on this parenthetical statement?
> >
> > (no)
> >
> > > I stopped listening to Nirvana and most other rock
> > > music a long time ago but
> > > I'm still interested in it in terms of its influence
> > > on society.
> >
> >That is very good!!! keep on burning your interests!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >adr
> >
> >_________________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Informacin de Estados Unidos y Amrica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias.
> >Vistanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, Amrica Latina y el resto del
>Mundo.
>Vista Yahoo! Noticias.
_________________________________________________________________
Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
http://www.hotmail.com