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In a message dated 11/3/02 7:05:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> welcome Richard Koenigsberg's point that " The idea that the soldier acts
> from a position of "domination" is one of the fundamental delusions
> surrounding the institution of warfare." This is a valuable corrective.
> Nevertheless, it must be understood in relation to the systematic way in
> which this delusion is inculcated into recruits. Consider the following
> account, which is interesting when read
> side-by-side with Koenigsberg's.
> -Nate
I suggest that the dynamic comes from both sides. The recruit is
"inculcated" into the delusion of submission as domination by those in power.
However the recruit also attaches to power in order to create within himself
the fantasy of domination (that by submitting to power he will become
dominant).
I am suggesting that power is a human creation; that we create (and
imagine) the idea that are persons "above us" in order to feel that there is
something to bow down to.
We "discipline and punish" ourselves in order to put ourselves under
control. It is the fantasy or need that creates (is the source of/gives rise
to) the reality, which then appears as a "thing" independent of our own will.
Best regards,
Richard K.
Richard Koenigsberg, Ph. D.
Director, Library of Social Science
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/3/02 7:05:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">welcome Richard Koenigsberg's point that " The idea that the soldier acts from a position of "domination" is one of the fundamental delusions surrounding the institution of warfare." This is a valuable corrective. Nevertheless, it must be understood in relation to the systematic way in which this delusion is inculcated into recruits. Consider the following account, which is interesting when read <BR>
side-by-side with Koenigsberg's.<BR>
-Nate</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
I suggest that the dynamic comes from both sides. The recruit is "inculcated" into the delusion of submission as domination by those in power. However the recruit also attaches to power in order to create within himself the fantasy of domination (that by submitting to power he will become dominant).<BR>
<BR>
I am suggesting that power is a human creation; that we create (and imagine) the idea that are persons "above us" in order to feel that there is something to bow down to.<BR>
<BR>
We "discipline and punish" ourselves in order to put ourselves under control. It is the fantasy or need that creates (is the source of/gives rise to) the reality, which then appears as a "thing" independent of our own will.<BR>
<BR>
Best regards,<BR>
<BR>
Richard K.<BR>
<BR>
Richard Koenigsberg, Ph. D.<BR>
Director, Library of Social Science</FONT></HTML>
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