This test is the rage on that subject here:
Main Author: Dosse, Frangois,
Title: [Histoire du structuralisme. English]
History of structuralism /
Publisher: Minneapolis, Minn. : University of Minnesota Press, 1997.
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Psico_PR wrote:
> Hello for all
>
> Im looking for good references about 'structuralism', and also the
> relations of structuralism and the 'archaeological period' of Foucault
>
> (im sorry for my english :D
>
> []s
>
> b.r.
>
> O Estrangeiro - Banco de Textos em Cincias Humanas
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> Pesquisa em Michel Foucault
> http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux/michel.htm
> Lista de Discusso: Foucault, Deleuze, Guattari:
> http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/estrangeiro/
> "Uma teoria como uma caixa de ferramentas. Nada tem a ver com o
> significante... preciso que sirva, preciso que funcione. E no para si
> mesma. (...) No se refaz uma teoria, fazem-se outras; h outras a serem
> feitas. curioso que seja (...) Proust, que o tenha dito to claramente:
> tratem meus livros como culos dirigidos para fora e se eles no lhes
> servem, consigam outros, encontrem vocs mesmos seu instrumento, que
> forosamente um instrumento de combate." Gilles Deleuze
>
> "Navigare necesse; vivere non est necesse"
> Pompeu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronald tuch <rontee707@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: foucault and agency [Franois Gagnon]
>
>
> > That is a very interesting point, that the individual's particular
> personal
> > contribution to a larger social/historical event may not be meaningful, if
> > that is the right word. But the use of email itself is important is it
> not.
> > Using email and thus validating it as an important way to communicate is
> > important. How does email itself contribute
> > to the larger historical event. How did telephones contribute to the two
> > world wars. Individual phone calls made a million times by millions of
> > people did not matter--but did not the use of the phone matter? Could
> these
> > wars have been fought without phones and the wireless? Had millions of
> > people NOT used emails and rejected the internet and thus 'turned it off,"
> > as an investment for companies and a personal investment in time and money
>
> > by individuals--had emailing not been guaranteed such a prominent position
> > in history-technology, then the role played by emailing in the revolution
> > may have been minimalized. What about emails now being intercepted to
> catch
> > terrorists? Are they not using emails because emailing has been set up as
> a
> > network of communication throughout the world? The individual acts may
> not
> > be important but the instrumentality of the act is important--the
> validation
> > and the sustenance of the instruments are what make the individual acts
> > profound in a larger context.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ali Rizvi" <ali_m_rizvi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: foucault and agency [Franois Gagnon]
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I think it should be carefully determined on what level it is
> appropriate
> > to
> > > say, according to Foucault, "it does not matter who act". Take for
> example
> > > four different levels (roughly) on which this claim can be analysed.
> > >
> > > I am writing this email. Of course it does matter that I am writing it
> and
> > > not you if considering the question of who wrote this email.
> > >
> > > I am writing this email. Now to what extent this writing of email
> matters
> > > considering my self-constitution. It does matter but to a lesser extent
> > and
> > > there are and may be various other factors which are relevant and may be
> > > more important.
> > >
> > > I am writing this email. Consider this with reference to a possibility
> of
> > > revolution in near future in say (Foucauldian studies). Well may be it
> has
> > > some (fractional) relevance but it hardly matters that (who) wrote this
> > > mail. It would be more relevant to consider the situation of who wrote
> > > the email in this context.
> > >
> > > I am writing this email. Consider this with reference to a possibility
> of
> > > revolution on system wide level. Well it is almost irrelevant and it
> > almost
> > > does not matter at all (who) wrote email in this context.
> > >
> > > Foucault's purpose was not to deny agent or the efficacy of his actions
> > but
> > > to show its limitations. Even when we do act, or say something, the
> moment
> > > we utter something or act, the action and words take there own life and
> in
> > > turn determine us and others. It was the force of this anonymity in
> > history
> > > that Foucault tried to emphasise in his formulations in the context of
> > > Enlightenment claims about powers and limitless capabilities of man.
> > >
> > > best
> > > ali
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [That is not what one would call a denial of agency. Of the subject,
> > > probably - and it is debatable. I would say though that this does not
> > > exlude
> > > the impression, reading Foucault, that "it doesn't matter who act" and
> > > therefore that his analysis are affect-less, focusing rather on
> impersonal
> > > rationalities of government that somewhat lack their 'human'
> > incorporation.]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Selon suannschafer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> > >
> > > > >Foucault's critics as a routine confuse his rejection of subject
> > > > >with the rejection of agency. It is not the same thing to dney
> > > > >agency and subject. One can believe in agency without believing in
> > > > >the notion of subject as understood in Cartesian and Enlightenment
> > > > >tradtion.
> > > >
> > > > That's interesting. Can you elaborate? Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Franois Gagnon
> > > tudiant au Doctorat
> > > Dpartement de Communication
> > > Universit de Montral
> > > (514)343-6111 poste 1464
> > >
> > >
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