sorry, might be my bad translation
Ce qui veut dire tout simplement que, dans le type d'analyse que j'essaie de vous
proposer depuis un certain temps, vous voyez que : relations de
pouvoir-gouvernmentalité-gouvernment de soi et des autres-rapport de soi á soi,
tout ceci constitue une chaîne, un trame, et que c'est là, autour de ces notions,
que l'on doit pouvoir, je pense, articuler la question de la politique et la
question de l'éthique.
p. 243 Herméneutique
----- Original Message -----
From: "jamie morgan" <zen34405@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: government
> What does it mean to have a chain of oneself to oneself, and itself to
> itself, how does this constitute the basis for an ethics?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arianna" <ari@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: government
>
>
> > [.] If one takes the question of power or political power and replaces it
> with
> > the more general question of governmentality -governmentality intended as
> a
> > strategic field of power relations, in the broader, not simply political,
> sense
> > of the term-, if one takes governmentality as the strategic field of power
> > relations, in so far as they are mobile, transformable and reversible, I
> think
> > that the reflection on this notion of governmentality must go through,
> both
> > theoretically and practically, the element of a subject that would be
> defined by
> > the relation of the self to the self. In so far as the theory of political
> power
> > as institution normally refers to a juridical conception of the subject of
> > rights, it seems to me that the analysis of governmentality -i.e. the
> analysis of
> > power as an ensemble of reversible relations-must refer to an ethics of
> the
> > subject defined by the relation of itself to itself. I simply want to say
> that in
> > the kind of analysis that I have tried to propose for some time, you see
> that:
> > relations of power-governmentality; government of oneself and others and
> relation
> > of oneself to oneself, all these constitute a chain, a web. It is there,
> around
> > these notions, that one must be able to, I think, articulate the question
> of
> > politics and the question of ethics.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Turner" <k.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: government
> >
> >
> > > hi colin,
> > >
> > > the probelm i see with my thesis is that, due to the fact that i come
> from
> > > a 1970s comprehensive education at a school which never really pushed
> > > second languages, i can read neither french nor german. and whilst i
> don't
> > > subscribe to the opinion that one has to read foucault in the original
> > > french, i certainly think it has its advantages (as stuart elden's book
> on
> > > spatial history attest to). and so the materials i am drawing upon to
> > > write the stuff on governmentality, and note the linkages between this
> as
> > > the military model, are the same materials that dean, rose, etal have
> been
> > > drawing upon. hence my original question as to how this secondary
> > > literature relates to the 1978-9 courses.
> > >
> > > it will certainly be a very interesting time when these two lecture
> > > courses are finally released in english translation (any idea when this
> > > might be).
> > >
> > > regards - kevin.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin Turner
> > > Dept. of Sociology
> > > Cartmel College
> > > Lancaster University
> > > Lancaster
> > > LA1 4YL
> > >
> > > (01524) 594508
> > >
> >
>
Ce qui veut dire tout simplement que, dans le type d'analyse que j'essaie de vous
proposer depuis un certain temps, vous voyez que : relations de
pouvoir-gouvernmentalité-gouvernment de soi et des autres-rapport de soi á soi,
tout ceci constitue une chaîne, un trame, et que c'est là, autour de ces notions,
que l'on doit pouvoir, je pense, articuler la question de la politique et la
question de l'éthique.
p. 243 Herméneutique
----- Original Message -----
From: "jamie morgan" <zen34405@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: government
> What does it mean to have a chain of oneself to oneself, and itself to
> itself, how does this constitute the basis for an ethics?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arianna" <ari@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: government
>
>
> > [.] If one takes the question of power or political power and replaces it
> with
> > the more general question of governmentality -governmentality intended as
> a
> > strategic field of power relations, in the broader, not simply political,
> sense
> > of the term-, if one takes governmentality as the strategic field of power
> > relations, in so far as they are mobile, transformable and reversible, I
> think
> > that the reflection on this notion of governmentality must go through,
> both
> > theoretically and practically, the element of a subject that would be
> defined by
> > the relation of the self to the self. In so far as the theory of political
> power
> > as institution normally refers to a juridical conception of the subject of
> > rights, it seems to me that the analysis of governmentality -i.e. the
> analysis of
> > power as an ensemble of reversible relations-must refer to an ethics of
> the
> > subject defined by the relation of itself to itself. I simply want to say
> that in
> > the kind of analysis that I have tried to propose for some time, you see
> that:
> > relations of power-governmentality; government of oneself and others and
> relation
> > of oneself to oneself, all these constitute a chain, a web. It is there,
> around
> > these notions, that one must be able to, I think, articulate the question
> of
> > politics and the question of ethics.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Turner" <k.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: government
> >
> >
> > > hi colin,
> > >
> > > the probelm i see with my thesis is that, due to the fact that i come
> from
> > > a 1970s comprehensive education at a school which never really pushed
> > > second languages, i can read neither french nor german. and whilst i
> don't
> > > subscribe to the opinion that one has to read foucault in the original
> > > french, i certainly think it has its advantages (as stuart elden's book
> on
> > > spatial history attest to). and so the materials i am drawing upon to
> > > write the stuff on governmentality, and note the linkages between this
> as
> > > the military model, are the same materials that dean, rose, etal have
> been
> > > drawing upon. hence my original question as to how this secondary
> > > literature relates to the 1978-9 courses.
> > >
> > > it will certainly be a very interesting time when these two lecture
> > > courses are finally released in english translation (any idea when this
> > > might be).
> > >
> > > regards - kevin.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin Turner
> > > Dept. of Sociology
> > > Cartmel College
> > > Lancaster University
> > > Lancaster
> > > LA1 4YL
> > >
> > > (01524) 594508
> > >
> >
>