AW: The foucault list - PLEASE READ

There are differences in the reliability of mailing list hosts. We had some
difficulties using yahoogroups with another list. Perhaps somebody knows an
administration service from some IT department of an university?

Claudius

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag
> von François Gagnon
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. November 2004 19:43
> An: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: The foucault list - PLEASE READ
>
>
> Well, thanks for the service - it was much appreciated.
>
> Also, would anybody be interested if I went on to set up a
> Foucault list on Yahoo? I propose this in order to reduce the
> work involved for me (I don't have time to familiarize myself
> with any software and it's pretty easy to set up a Yahoo
> list) and it seems to me the offer somewhat the same service
> as the present list (basically an easy going mailing list and
> an archive - although it might be somewhat limited in this
> last case). Or does somebody have a better idea?
>
> If a few people answer positively to my first question, I'll
> set it up and mail here the subscription information...
>
> François
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "malgosia askanas" <ma@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: The foucault list - PLEASE READ
>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend to
> close down
> > the foucault list. This decision is part of a wider set of
> decisions
> > having
> to
> > do with the present circumstances of the Spoon Collective -
> which, as
> > you probably know, has been running this list.
> >
> > The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving founder, has
> > been operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people who
> > currently constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very
> > beginning, and
> almost
> > all the others for almost as long.
> >
> > When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a crucial
> aspect of
> > its
> life
> > was our own passionate involvement in the lists we created or took
> > over. As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and
> confrontation
> > thinking people from all over the computerized world - people from
> > astoundingly different walks of life and with astoundingly
> different
> > ways of thinking, but with a shared passion for more accurate
> > perception and deeper
> understanding
> > - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous potential for
> > evolving new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is
> > essential to note
> that
> > when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of thought
> and life,
> > it
> was
> > for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not about
> > providing
> a
> > public or academic or political service, discharging a
> societal duty,
> > or providing platforms for this or that political organization or
> orientation -
> > rather, it was about changing life - the life we think and live -
> > right at
> the
> > present moment.
> >
> > Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists gradually
> changed,
> > and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced to an
> indifferent
> > performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of labor. The
> > reasons
> for
> > this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest one, perhaps,
> > being
> that
> > the same group of people has been doing the same thing for
> 10 years.
> > If
> our
> > goal had been less the stability of existing lists and more the
> preservation
> > of our own passion, we probably could have done better. In
> any case,
> > we
> find
> > ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats.
> >
> > I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no longer
> > tolerable
> or
> > sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am quitting the
> > Spoon
> > Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists
> that I have been
> > responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon
> Collective as a
> > certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name no
> longer be used
> for
> > whatever the present members may undertake in the future.
> >
> > I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular list
> from any
> > perspective but my own - and neither would I want to. Only each of
> > you
> can
> > decide whether you value this list enough to step in and recreate it
> somewhere
> > else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make available
> to you a
> > copy of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of the
> > archive, and software support for a smooth transition. The present
> > list will stop
> operating
> > around December 10th.
> >
> > A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an interest in
> either
> > continuing their present lists or initiating other
> collective projects
> > at Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what develops, the
> > Spoon
> archives,
> > which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and fascinating
> resource,
> > can continue to be housed in their present location. In
> addition, a
> > copy of the archives is being installed at the domain
> driftline.org,
> > where they will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would
> > like to house additional copies of the full or individual archives
> > elsewhere, this would of course increase the goodness.
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> > -malgosia
>


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