I agree with the Foucault list at Yahoo, François. Please
invite me.
João
> Well, thanks for the service - it was much appreciated.
>
> Also, would anybody be interested if I went on to set up a
Foucault list on
> Yahoo? I propose this in order to reduce the work involved
for me (I don't
> have time to familiarize myself with any software and it's
pretty easy to
> set up a Yahoo list) and it seems to me the offer somewhat
the same service
> as the present list (basically an easy going mailing list
and an archive -
> although it might be somewhat limited in this last case).
Or does somebody
> have a better idea?
>
> If a few people answer positively to my first question,
I'll set it up and
> mail here the subscription information...
>
> François
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "malgosia askanas" <ma@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: The foucault list - PLEASE READ
>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend
to close down the
> > foucault list. This decision is part of a wider set of
decisions having
> to
> > do with the present circumstances of the Spoon
Collective - which, as you
> > probably know, has been running this list.
> >
> > The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving
founder, has been
> > operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people
who currently
> > constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very
beginning, and
> almost
> > all the others for almost as long.
> >
> > When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a
crucial aspect of its
> life
> > was our own passionate involvement in the lists we
created or took over.
> > As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and
confrontation thinking
> > people from all over the computerized world - people from
astoundingly
> > different walks of life and with astoundingly different
ways of thinking,
> > but with a shared passion for more accurate perception
and deeper
> understanding
> > - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous
potential for evolving
> > new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is
essential to note
> that
> > when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of
thought and life, it
> was
> > for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not
about providing
> a
> > public or academic or political service, discharging a
societal duty, or
> > providing platforms for this or that political
organization or
> orientation -
> > rather, it was about changing life - the life we think
and live - right at
> the
> > present moment.
> >
> > Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists
gradually
> changed,
> > and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced
to an
> indifferent
> > performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of
labor. The reasons
> for
> > this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest
one, perhaps, being
> that
> > the same group of people has been doing the same thing
for 10 years. If
> our
> > goal had been less the stability of existing lists and
more the
> preservation
> > of our own passion, we probably could have done better.
In any case, we
> find
> > ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats.
> >
> > I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no
longer tolerable
> or
> > sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am
quitting the Spoon
> > Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists
that I have been
> > responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon
Collective as a
> > certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name
no longer be used
> for
> > whatever the present members may undertake in the future.
> >
> > I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular
list from any
> > perspective but my own - and neither would I want to.
Only each of you
> can
> > decide whether you value this list enough to step in and
recreate it
> somewhere
> > else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make
available to you a copy
> > of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of
the archive, and
> > software support for a smooth transition. The present
list will stop
> operating
> > around December 10th.
> >
> > A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an
interest in
> either
> > continuing their present lists or initiating other
collective projects at
> > Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what
develops, the Spoon
> archives,
> > which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and
fascinating
> resource,
> > can continue to be housed in their present location. In
addition, a copy
> > of the archives is being installed at the domain
driftline.org, where they
> > will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would
like to house
> > additional copies of the full or individual archives
elsewhere, this would
> > of course increase the goodness.
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> > -malgosia
>
>
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