Re: [Foucault-L] Gutting

I could be wrong, but the reference to Gutting's book was most likely his Michel Foucault's Archaeology of Scientific Reason, Cambridge University Press.

On Sep 23, 2007, at 9:00 AM, suniti sharma wrote:

Gutting's book is titled:
Foucault A Very Short Introduction
Oxford University Press

--- John narayan <thesignofthetimes@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Hey Jared,

Tricky question that will no doubt get different

I am of the persuasion that there is a break in the
two methodologies;
mainly because I take archaeology to suffer from
issues it never gets
around. For example,

1) The relationship between the Discursive and
Non-Discursive (something I
think genealogy gets round via its focus on
2) The generality of the archives Foucault describes
and what could be
argued to be a return of a quasi-transcendental in
his own work.
3) The reflexivity and epistemological status of
Foucault's own

You can see Foucault grappling with some of these
problems; for example, see
the English preface to the Order of Things and the
Archaeology of Knowledge.

On the other hand, other authors don’t see the above
problems in Archaeology
(I’m thinking of Gutting’s book but can’t remember
the title).

Foucault is pretty patchy on highlighting the
differences between the two
methods but the book I found most helpful was by
Todd May:

(1993), Between Genealogy and Epistemology:
Psychology, politics and
Knowledge in the Thought of Michel Foucault
(University Park, PA:
Pennsylvania Press)

I don’t know you familiarity level concerning
Foucault’s work, but if not
high, try reading May’s introduction to Foucault
beforehand, which does a
good job of introducing the differences whilst
stressing the continuity
between the two methods.

BTW, I would not get too bogged down in Foucault's
recasting of his own
project, it happens at various times throughout his
career. And roughly, the
works do all address the historical ontology of
ourselves that Foucault
denotes in What is Enlightenment.


From: "Jared Kennard" <jaredkennard@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [Foucault-L] Genealogy Archaeology Divide
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:36:05 -0600

This question may seem a bit naive but I will ask
it anyway. I have been
doing some research on Foucault's genealogy and
archaeology and have come
the conclusion that in the course of his work the
latter is more or less
replaced by the former. I began my inquiry with
the understanding that the
early works of Foucault were conducted under a sort
of rubric of
archaeology, as he lays out in various places. It
seems, however, that he
finds this method unsatisfactory and moves to the
genealogical method
instead. My problem is that in stead of a clean
break or clear
differentiation between the two methodologies he
seems to simply recast his
works as works of genealogy instead of archaeology.
In the interview he
gave with Rabinow and Dreyfus entitled "On the
Genealogy of Ethics" he
states that: "three domains of genealogy are
possible," and that "all three
were Madness and Civilization."
Furthermore, The Birth of the
Clinic and The Order of Things studied one of these
three axis, while
Discipline and Punish and History of Sexuality
Studied the other two. With
out getting into the specifics of what these three
possibilities are, since
that doesn't seem relevant to the problem at hand,
it does seem quite
obvious that he is brushing over earlier statements
he has made about his
early works being archaeology's; or perhaps he is
attempting to apply a
of discursive eraser.

Ultimately my problem boils down to this: if what I
have said above is
correct than where, if anywhere, does he talk about
this move he has made?
Has archaeology been removed as an analytical tool
due to the problems this
methodology creates? And if so in what ways does
genealogy differ from its
predecessor? How is it that the genealogical form
can simply replace the
archaeological one?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly

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