Yes, I do briefly mention this in the following piece:-
"Discipline, Health and Madness: Foucault's Le pouvoir psychiatrique", History of the Human Sciences, Vol 19 No 1, February 2006, pp. 39-66.
Several arguments related to this discussion can also be found in my 2001 book Mapping the Present, which was written before many of these lecture courses came out.
best wishes
Stuart
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Hi Clare,
and thanks for the references.
Having scanned through them very quickly, I was reasonably surprised to come across no instances of the phrase "genealogy of power." The closest Foucault come to saying this is in 'Truth and Power' where he refers to 'the genealogy of relations of force' (P/K: 114; EW3: 116).
What is interesting is that I have found many more instances in which Foucault talks about doing a "genealogy of knowledge (connaissance)," which would be the "indispensable other side" to the "archaeology of knowledge (savoir): see, for example, "Psychiatric Power:" 238ff, 346; "Society Must Be Defended:" 8-12; and in "Penal Theories and Institutions," which has yet to be translated into English, Foucault makes a distinction between what he calls "an archaeology of knowledge" and a "dynastics of knowledge," cf. PP: 256n13; see also, EW1: 17ff).
What's even more interesting is that I think I have only come across one instance in which a "genealogy of connaissance" is discussed in the secondary literature. I cannot remember the exact reference, but I think it was something written by Stuart Elden. If anyone knows of other instances of this, could I please have references.
Regards,
Kevin.
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> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Kevin
>
> I don't have my books with me but try The Order of Discourse, 'Truth
> and power' and 'Two lectures'. If Foucault does use the term these
> are the most likely places.
>
> You raise a useful point about secondary commentary inventing terms
> which then get attributed to the primary source and the necessity to
> carefully check. I won't even begin to mention the problems of
> translation...
>
> At 10:48 AM -0800 23/10/08, Kevin Turner wrote:
> >I cannot find this phrase in the text you mention - do you have a
> >reference to the page on which Foucault uses "genealogy of power"?
>>
> >The reason I am asking the question is that I don't remember ever
> >reading this phrase in any of Foucault's texts, and so I'm wondering
> >whether is actually a product of secondary commentary which, through
> >reiteration, has somehow become attributed to Foucault himself.
>
> --
> regards
> Clare
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"Discipline, Health and Madness: Foucault's Le pouvoir psychiatrique", History of the Human Sciences, Vol 19 No 1, February 2006, pp. 39-66.
Several arguments related to this discussion can also be found in my 2001 book Mapping the Present, which was written before many of these lecture courses came out.
best wishes
Stuart
________________________________
From: foucault-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Kevin Turner
Sent: Fri 24/10/2008 8:34 AM
To: Mailing-list
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] genealogy of power
Hi Clare,
and thanks for the references.
Having scanned through them very quickly, I was reasonably surprised to come across no instances of the phrase "genealogy of power." The closest Foucault come to saying this is in 'Truth and Power' where he refers to 'the genealogy of relations of force' (P/K: 114; EW3: 116).
What is interesting is that I have found many more instances in which Foucault talks about doing a "genealogy of knowledge (connaissance)," which would be the "indispensable other side" to the "archaeology of knowledge (savoir): see, for example, "Psychiatric Power:" 238ff, 346; "Society Must Be Defended:" 8-12; and in "Penal Theories and Institutions," which has yet to be translated into English, Foucault makes a distinction between what he calls "an archaeology of knowledge" and a "dynastics of knowledge," cf. PP: 256n13; see also, EW1: 17ff).
What's even more interesting is that I think I have only come across one instance in which a "genealogy of connaissance" is discussed in the secondary literature. I cannot remember the exact reference, but I think it was something written by Stuart Elden. If anyone knows of other instances of this, could I please have references.
Regards,
Kevin.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c.ofarrell@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:43:37 +1000
> To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] genealogy of power
>
> Kevin
>
> I don't have my books with me but try The Order of Discourse, 'Truth
> and power' and 'Two lectures'. If Foucault does use the term these
> are the most likely places.
>
> You raise a useful point about secondary commentary inventing terms
> which then get attributed to the primary source and the necessity to
> carefully check. I won't even begin to mention the problems of
> translation...
>
> At 10:48 AM -0800 23/10/08, Kevin Turner wrote:
> >I cannot find this phrase in the text you mention - do you have a
> >reference to the page on which Foucault uses "genealogy of power"?
>>
> >The reason I am asking the question is that I don't remember ever
> >reading this phrase in any of Foucault's texts, and so I'm wondering
> >whether is actually a product of secondary commentary which, through
> >reiteration, has somehow become attributed to Foucault himself.
>
> --
> regards
> Clare
> ************************************************
> Clare O'Farrell
> email: c.ofarrell@xxxxxxxxxx
> website: http://www.michel-foucault.com <http://www.michel-foucault.com/>
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