Re: [Foucault-L] Foucault-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 19

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:07:50 -0800
From: Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Foucault and interpretivism
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hi ian

there is a passage from an interview foucault gave in 1967 that I have taken as a kind of methodological prescription in writing my thesis about foucault, which i think may be of some help in addressing your question.

the interview has the title 'on the ways of writing history,' and the passage reads as follows:

'Instead of reconstituting the immanent secret, [criticism; k] treats the text as a set of elements?among which one can bring out absolutely new relations, insofar as they have not been controlled by the writer?s design and are made possible only by the work itself as such. The formal relations that one discovers in this way are not present in anyone?s mind; they don?t constitute the latent content of the statements, their discreet secret. They are a construction, but an accurate construction provided that the relations described can actually be assigned to the material treated?[they are constructions that]?place people?s words in relations that are still unformulated, said by us for the first time, and yet objectively accurate' (EW2: 286-287).

regards,
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I am fairly new to Foucauldian methods and am currently trying to
understand whether the idea of interpretation has any place in using
Foucault's methods. I understand that for Foucault there is no inside or
outside of discourse so in using his methods it is important to aviod
searching for meaning.



My question would be, when analysing data am I just describing the
practices? But then surely my descriptions are only my interpretation?
From what I can see (with my noice minds eye) there is no way out of
interpretation, or am I just talking about two different things?



Any feedback about this, or useful and informative pieces to read, or
some general feedback on using Foucault would be much appreciated.



Regards

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2. Info on foucauldian research in France (goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx)
3. Re : Info on foucauldian research in France (emmanuel pehau)
4. Re: Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
(tp2277@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
5. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (David McInerney)
6. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (Chetan Vemuri)
7. looking for text (Michael Maidan)
8. Re: looking for text (Douglas Olena)
9. Re: looking for text (Timothy O'Leary)
10. Re: looking for text (Douglas Olena)
11. Re: looking for text (M. Karskens)
12. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (james)
13. Jules Vuillemin (Paul Taborsky)
14. Re: Jules Vuillemin (pong naiyavitit)
15. Using the forum (ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
16. Foucault and interpretivism (ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
17. Re: Foucault and interpretivism (David McInerney)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:08:28 +0800
From: "Timothy O'Leary" <autrement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Fwd: [PL] Query re. Foucault, Heidegger, the
internet
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Dear Foucault List,
I am forwarding this from another philosophy list - it should get more
responses here.
Timothy


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Date: Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:36 AM
Subject: [PL] Query re. Foucault, Heidegger, the internet
To: PHILOS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Dear all,
I have another query for a student of mine pursuing a research project that
analyzes the implications of the internet in terms of Foucault's theory of
biopower/biopolitics and Heidegger's writings on technology. He is trying
to argue that Heidegger's ontology is more successful than Foucault's theory
of biopolitics for analyzing what is at stake, politically and ethically, in
the development of the internet.

If anyone knows of secondary material that directly addresses the internet
in light of Foucault's and/or Heidegger's thinking, could you please send
the reference to me off-list at patiencemoll@xxxxxxxxxxx?

Thank you very much, and thanks to those who responded to my earlier query
re. bioethics and sustainability.

Patience Moll
Lecturer
Humanities Core Program
U.C. Irvine

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:36:56 +0200
From: <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's ? nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber






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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:26:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: emmanuel pehau <klossi_fr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi, Goran.

I've been studying philosophy at Vincennes for the last two years. As far as I know, it's the only place in France were foucaldian studies are part of the "daily meal". (And yes, it's one of the many reasons I'm there.)

Emmanuel.


________________________________
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Envoy? le : Mardi, 12 Mai 2009, 18h36mn 56s
Objet : [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's ? nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:31:31 -0400
From: tp2277@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi, I do not know what you are looking for : a professor working on
foucault or a place to do your phd where there would be people working
on F. Anyway, you could get in touch with Frederic Gros, who is
teaching at Paris XII and Sciences Po and who just edited the last
(for now) of the courses of the college de france
t.

Citando emmanuel pehau <klossi_fr@xxxxxxxx>:

Hi, Goran.

I've been studying philosophy at Vincennes for the last two years.
As far as I know, it's the only place in France were foucaldian
studies are part of the "daily meal". (And yes, it's one of the many
reasons I'm there.)

Emmanuel.


________________________________
De : "goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx" <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx>
? : Foucault-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Envoy? le : Mardi, 12 Mai 2009, 18h36mn 56s
Objet : [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Columbia University
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:28:10 +0930
From: David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:40:46 -0500
From: Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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University of Paris VII (I think that's it?) has Frederic Gros, who has
edited and transcribed the lectures for 82, 83 and 84. A respected French
scholar on Foucault.
There is also Michel Senellart, but I forget where he works.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:44:08 -0400
From: Michael Maidan <michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung), Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:04:35 -0500
From: Douglas Olena <doug@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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There is a reference to the essay in michel-foucault-archives
http://www.michel-foucault-archives.org/spip.php? rubrique7&id_article=44
during mai. But I can't find it in Dits et ?crits for 1978.

An English translation can be found in Semiotext(e) The Politics of
Truth.

Doug

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On May 13, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Michael Maidan wrote:

Qu'est-ce que la critique



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:21:35 +0800
From: "Timothy O'Leary" <autrement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Dear Michael,

as far as I know, the only French publication of that text is still the
original from 1990 in the Bulletin...

It's well worth trying to get a copy of this (through inter-library loan?),
as it contains a transcript of the Q&A session after the talk that is not in
the English translation (unless it's in the new Semiotext(e) edition?).

Timothy


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Michael Maidan <michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung), Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

*
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:27:19 -0500
From: Douglas Olena <doug@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <CE8D1BC1-1B41-4CEB-9E13-793AE0C46A13@xxxxxxxxx>
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the Q&A is in the Semiotext(e) English edition

Doug

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On May 13, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Timothy O'Leary wrote:

Dear Michael,

as far as I know, the only French publication of that text is still
the
original from 1990 in the Bulletin...

It's well worth trying to get a copy of this (through inter-library
loan?),
as it contains a transcript of the Q&A session after the talk that
is not in
the English translation (unless it's in the new Semiotext(e)
edition?).

Timothy


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Michael Maidan <michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung),
Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

*
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:09:37 +0200
From: "M. Karskens" <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20090514100932.F4118C7096@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

a complete English translation of the conference
and the discussion can be found in The
Political ed. David Ingram, Blackwell 2002, pp. 191-211.

yours
machiel karskens




At 23:44 13-5-2009, you wrote:
Dear members of Foucault List, I am looking for
the following text: *Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la
critique ? (Critique et Aufkl??rung), Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie,
**n??1990 84 2 This is the text F's conference
in 1978. is not in DE. Thanks for your
asistance. Rgds, Michael Maidan *
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social and political philosophy
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Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:13:55 -0400
From: james <spatium@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<c74774220905161213i4947cb2o6d293934adc10b67@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Michel Senellart was at ENS-LSH in Lyon last time I was there.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

University of Paris VII (I think that's it?) has Frederic Gros, who has
edited and transcribed the lectures for 82, 83 and 84. A respected French
scholar on Foucault.
There is also Michel Senellart, but I forget where he works.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Taborsky <pdtaborsky@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
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I have been reading Jules Vuillemin's 'L'Heritage Kantienne et la revolution copernicienne: Fichte - Cohen - Heidegger', (1954), and it is obvious that a great deal of Foucault's ideas about the post- Kantian epistemological framework must have been influenced by this work. Yet nowhere do I recall Foucault acknowledging his influence. Is Vuillemin's influence on Foucault well known? If not, it certainly should be, for it strikes me that, at least for his early, 'archaeological' work, this book is as least as important as, if not more important than, the other usual sources of influence that are often cited, such as Canguilhem.

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Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:09:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: pong naiyavitit <pongn@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
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wiki.fr claims that Vuillemin is a friend of Foucault, and they also discussed each other while Foucault worked on OT.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Vuillemin

That's what I know

pong





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From: Paul Taborsky <pdtaborsky@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 9:28 AM

I have been reading Jules Vuillemin's 'L'Heritage Kantienne et la revolution copernicienne: Fichte - Cohen - Heidegger', (1954), and it is obvious that a great deal of Foucault's ideas about the post- Kantian epistemological framework must have been influenced by this work. Yet nowhere do I recall Foucault acknowledging his influence. Is Vuillemin's influence on Foucault well known? If not, it certainly should be, for it strikes me that, at least for his early, 'archaeological' work, this book is as least as important as, if not more important than, the other usual sources of influence that are often cited, such as Canguilhem.

Paul Taborsky, Zheng Li Shiji Dasha, Suite 1106, 199 Laodong Xilu, Changsha, Hunan, 410002 China.



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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:30:32 +0000
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Subject: [Foucault-L] Using the forum
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I have just subscribed to the forum/notice board and and replying in order to start leaving messages on the board.

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:38:46 +0000
From: <ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Foucault and interpretivism
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I am fairly new to Foucauldian methods and am currently trying to understand whether the idea of interpretation has any place in using Foucault's methods. I understand that for Foucault there is no inside or outside of discourse so in using his methods it is important to aviod searching for meaning.



My question would be, when analysing data am I just describing the practices? But then surely my descriptions are only my interpretation? From what I can see (with my noice minds eye) there is no way out of interpretation, or am I just talking about two different things?



Any feedback about this, or useful and informative pieces to read, or some general feedback on using Foucault would be much appreciated.



Regards

Ian


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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:23:51 +0930
From: David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Foucault and interpretivism
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Welcome to the list Ian.

I was reading something the other day that discussed this issue.

I think it might have been Dominick LaCapra's History and Reading:
Tocqueville, Foucault, French Studies (University of Toronto Press,
2000). You might start there.

You are right to assume that Foucault generally avoids searching for
a meaning 'underneath' or 'behind' discourse in that hermeneutical
sense, but I'm not sure how explicit he is about a lot of that. It
seems to be more a general feature of his work, rather than something
he intervenes on repeatedly. For that kind of thing you might get
something more sustained in Deleuze, Althusser, or Macherey. The
points where their positions on this intersect with those of Derrida
perhaps indicate a general doxa - obviously there are divergences
between all of these thinkers that are distinctive and mark out their
different and opposed positions on certain points, but there is
something to be gained by considering their shared assumptions, which
indicate the shared terrain on which their disagreements play out.

Unless someone can suggest a better alternative I'd say LaCapra's
book's not a bad place to start.

DM


On 22/05/2009, at 6:08 AM, <ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I am fairly new to Foucauldian methods and am currently trying to
understand whether the idea of interpretation has any place in
using Foucault's methods. I understand that for Foucault there is
no inside or outside of discourse so in using his methods it is
important to aviod searching for meaning.



My question would be, when analysing data am I just describing the
practices? But then surely my descriptions are only my
interpretation? From what I can see (with my noice minds eye) there
is no way out of interpretation, or am I just talking about two
different things?



Any feedback about this, or useful and informative pieces to read,
or some general feedback on using Foucault would be much appreciated.



Regards

Ian
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:42:07 -0600
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Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Foucault-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 18
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Hi I've been looking for Jason Weidner's email address- I'd like to talk to
him about his call for papers on Foucault and Civil Society- I was wondering
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Thanks so much,
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2. Info on foucauldian research in France (goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx)
3. Re : Info on foucauldian research in France (emmanuel pehau)
4. Re: Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
(tp2277@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
5. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (David McInerney)
6. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (Chetan Vemuri)
7. looking for text (Michael Maidan)
8. Re: looking for text (Douglas Olena)
9. Re: looking for text (Timothy O'Leary)
10. Re: looking for text (Douglas Olena)
11. Re: looking for text (M. Karskens)
12. Re: Info on foucauldian research in France (james)
13. Jules Vuillemin (Paul Taborsky)
14. Re: Jules Vuillemin (pong naiyavitit)
15. Using the forum (ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
16. Foucault and interpretivism (ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
17. Re: Foucault and interpretivism (David McInerney)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:08:28 +0800
From: "Timothy O'Leary" <autrement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Fwd: [PL] Query re. Foucault, Heidegger, the
internet
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Dear Foucault List,
I am forwarding this from another philosophy list - it should get more
responses here.
Timothy


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From: Patience Moll <patiencemoll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:36 AM
Subject: [PL] Query re. Foucault, Heidegger, the internet
To: PHILOS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Dear all,
I have another query for a student of mine pursuing a research project that
analyzes the implications of the internet in terms of Foucault's theory of
biopower/biopolitics and Heidegger's writings on technology. He is trying
to argue that Heidegger's ontology is more successful than Foucault's
theory
of biopolitics for analyzing what is at stake, politically and ethically,
in
the development of the internet.

If anyone knows of secondary material that directly addresses the internet
in light of Foucault's and/or Heidegger's thinking, could you please send
the reference to me off-list at patiencemoll@xxxxxxxxxxx?

Thank you very much, and thanks to those who responded to my earlier query
re. bioethics and sustainability.

Patience Moll
Lecturer
Humanities Core Program
U.C. Irvine

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:36:56 +0200
From: <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Foucault-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French universities,
especially that of EHESS's department of Political Science (who's research
centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well aware of that) I could not find
anyone (meaning professors) whose work would primarily deal with Michel
Foucault (I have browsed through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian research
is being conducted or has it become (because of it's ?nature?) so dispersed
that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull information it
would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber






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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:26:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: emmanuel pehau <klossi_fr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi, Goran.

I've been studying philosophy at Vincennes for the last two years. As far
as I know, it's the only place in France were foucaldian studies are part of
the "daily meal". (And yes, it's one of the many reasons I'm there.)

Emmanuel.


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De : "goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx" <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx>
? : Foucault-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Envoy? le : Mardi, 12 Mai 2009, 18h36mn 56s
Objet : [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French universities,
especially that of EHESS's department of Political Science (who's research
centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well aware of that) I could not find
anyone (meaning professors) whose work would primarily deal with Michel
Foucault (I have browsed through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian research
is being conducted or has it become (because of it's ?nature?) so dispersed
that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull information it
would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:31:31 -0400
From: tp2277@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Re : Info on foucauldian research in France
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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format="flowed"

Hi, I do not know what you are looking for : a professor working on
foucault or a place to do your phd where there would be people working
on F. Anyway, you could get in touch with Frederic Gros, who is
teaching at Paris XII and Sciences Po and who just edited the last
(for now) of the courses of the college de france
t.

Citando emmanuel pehau <klossi_fr@xxxxxxxx>:

Hi, Goran.

I've been studying philosophy at Vincennes for the last two years.
As far as I know, it's the only place in France were foucaldian
studies are part of the "daily meal". (And yes, it's one of the many
reasons I'm there.)

Emmanuel.


________________________________
De : "goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx" <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx>
? : Foucault-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Envoy? le : Mardi, 12 Mai 2009, 18h36mn 56s
Objet : [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:28:10 +0930
From: David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <BD124F2C-589F-4D30-8655-4A738A01A952@xxxxxxxxx>
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format=flowed

This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:40:46 -0500
From: Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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University of Paris VII (I think that's it?) has Frederic Gros, who has
edited and transcribed the lectures for 82, 83 and 84. A respected French
scholar on Foucault.
There is also Michel Senellart, but I forget where he works.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:44:08 -0400
From: Michael Maidan <michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<b7a8c9f40905131444m714b9b3fl85848279c462e611@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung), Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:04:35 -0500
From: Douglas Olena <doug@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed;
delsp=yes

There is a reference to the essay in michel-foucault-archives
http://www.michel-foucault-archives.org/spip.php? rubrique7&id_article=44
during mai. But I can't find it in Dits et ?crits for 1978.

An English translation can be found in Semiotext(e) The Politics of
Truth.

Doug

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On May 13, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Michael Maidan wrote:

Qu'est-ce que la critique



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:21:35 +0800
From: "Timothy O'Leary" <autrement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<fc06d9820905131821m31c52f5by8c8f3dc2c507cf0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Dear Michael,

as far as I know, the only French publication of that text is still the
original from 1990 in the Bulletin...

It's well worth trying to get a copy of this (through inter- library loan?),
as it contains a transcript of the Q&A session after the talk that is not
in
the English translation (unless it's in the new Semiotext(e) edition?).

Timothy


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Michael Maidan <michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung),
Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

*
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:27:19 -0500
From: Douglas Olena <doug@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <CE8D1BC1-1B41-4CEB-9E13-793AE0C46A13@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes

the Q&A is in the Semiotext(e) English edition

Doug

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On May 13, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Timothy O'Leary wrote:

Dear Michael,

as far as I know, the only French publication of that text is still
the
original from 1990 in the Bulletin...

It's well worth trying to get a copy of this (through inter-library
loan?),
as it contains a transcript of the Q&A session after the talk that
is not in
the English translation (unless it's in the new Semiotext(e)
edition?).

Timothy


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Michael Maidan <
michael.maidan@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Dear members of Foucault List,



I am looking for the following text:

*Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la critique ? (Critique et Aufkl?rung),
Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie, **n?1990 84 2
This is the text F's conference in 1978. is not in DE.

Thanks for your asistance.

Rgds,


Michael Maidan

*
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:09:37 +0200
From: "M. Karskens" <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] looking for text
To: Mailing-list <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20090514100932.F4118C7096@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

a complete English translation of the conference
and the discussion can be found in The
Political ed. David Ingram, Blackwell 2002, pp. 191-211.

yours
machiel karskens




At 23:44 13-5-2009, you wrote:
Dear members of Foucault List, I am looking for
the following text: *Foucault, Qu'est-ce que la
critique ? (Critique et Aufkl??rung), Bulletin
de la societe franciase de philosophie,
**n??1990 84 2 This is the text F's conference
in 1978. is not in DE. Thanks for your
asistance. Rgds, Michael Maidan *
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:13:55 -0400
From: james <spatium@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Info on foucauldian research in France
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Michel Senellart was at ENS-LSH in Lyon last time I was there.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

University of Paris VII (I think that's it?) has Frederic Gros, who has
edited and transcribed the lectures for 82, 83 and 84. A respected French
scholar on Foucault.
There is also Michel Senellart, but I forget where he works.


On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

This is an interesting problem.

You would perhaps be best to speak to someone in France about it.
I'm not sure that there are people in France who spend their whole
lives studying Foucault - perhaps he's just not that exotic to
them? Pierre Macherey for example has written important essays
Foucault, but his main interest is in Spinoza, and he seems to have
written at least as much on Canguilhem (who I believe supervised both
him and Foucault) as on Foucault. He is retired now but maybe
someone at his university (Lille III) is also working on Foucault.
If you are comfortable speaking and writing in French you might try
there. I know of at least two people from English-speaking countries
who studied there with him in the 1990s.

Here's his website: http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/
sitespersonnels/macherey/accueilmacherey.html


On 13/05/2009, at 2:06 AM, <goran.gaber@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem:

while browsing through post-graduate "brochures" of French
universities, especially that of EHESS's department of Political
Science (who's research centre is named Raymond Aron - I am well
aware of that) I could not find anyone (meaning professors) whose
work would primarily deal with Michel Foucault (I have browsed
through JSTOR, SAGE and persee.fr).

The question is therefore the following: is the university
Vincennes-St.Denis ?the (only) place? in France where foucauldian
research is being conducted or has it become (because of it's
?nature?) so dispersed that it is everywhere yet nowhere??

If someone could direct me to some/one/place with usefull
information it would be greatelly appreciated.


Best Regards, Goran Gaber




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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Taborsky <pdtaborsky@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
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I have been reading Jules Vuillemin's 'L'Heritage Kantienne et la
revolution copernicienne: Fichte - Cohen - Heidegger', (1954), and it is
obvious that a great deal of Foucault's ideas about the post-Kantian
epistemological framework must have been influenced by this work. Yet
nowhere do I recall Foucault acknowledging his influence. Is Vuillemin's
influence on Foucault well known? If not, it certainly should be, for it
strikes me that, at least for his early, 'archaeological' work, this book is
as least as important as, if not more important than, the other usual
sources of influence that are often cited, such as Canguilhem.

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:09:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: pong naiyavitit <pongn@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
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wiki.fr claims that Vuillemin is a friend of Foucault, and they also
discussed each other while Foucault worked on OT.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Vuillemin

That's what I know

pong





--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Paul Taborsky <pdtaborsky@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Paul Taborsky <pdtaborsky@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Jules Vuillemin
To: foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 9:28 AM

I have been reading Jules Vuillemin's 'L'Heritage Kantienne et la
revolution copernicienne: Fichte - Cohen - Heidegger', (1954), and it is
obvious that a great deal of Foucault's ideas about the post-Kantian
epistemological framework must have been influenced by this work. Yet
nowhere do I recall Foucault acknowledging his influence. Is Vuillemin's
influence on Foucault well known? If not, it certainly should be, for it
strikes me that, at least for his early, 'archaeological' work, this book is
as least as important as, if not more important than, the other usual
sources of influence that are often cited, such as Canguilhem.

Paul Taborsky, Zheng Li Shiji Dasha, Suite 1106, 199 Laodong Xilu,
Changsha, Hunan, 410002 China.



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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:30:32 +0000
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I have just subscribed to the forum/notice board and and replying in order
to start leaving messages on the board.

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:38:46 +0000
From: <ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Foucault-L] Foucault and interpretivism
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I am fairly new to Foucauldian methods and am currently trying to
understand whether the idea of interpretation has any place in using
Foucault's methods. I understand that for Foucault there is no inside or
outside of discourse so in using his methods it is important to aviod
searching for meaning.



My question would be, when analysing data am I just describing the
practices? But then surely my descriptions are only my interpretation? From
what I can see (with my noice minds eye) there is no way out of
interpretation, or am I just talking about two different things?



Any feedback about this, or useful and informative pieces to read, or some
general feedback on using Foucault would be much appreciated.



Regards

Ian


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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:23:51 +0930
From: David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Foucault and interpretivism
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Welcome to the list Ian.

I was reading something the other day that discussed this issue.

I think it might have been Dominick LaCapra's History and Reading:
Tocqueville, Foucault, French Studies (University of Toronto Press,
2000). You might start there.

You are right to assume that Foucault generally avoids searching for
a meaning 'underneath' or 'behind' discourse in that hermeneutical
sense, but I'm not sure how explicit he is about a lot of that. It
seems to be more a general feature of his work, rather than something
he intervenes on repeatedly. For that kind of thing you might get
something more sustained in Deleuze, Althusser, or Macherey. The
points where their positions on this intersect with those of Derrida
perhaps indicate a general doxa - obviously there are divergences
between all of these thinkers that are distinctive and mark out their
different and opposed positions on certain points, but there is
something to be gained by considering their shared assumptions, which
indicate the shared terrain on which their disagreements play out.

Unless someone can suggest a better alternative I'd say LaCapra's
book's not a bad place to start.

DM


On 22/05/2009, at 6:08 AM, <ian.walmsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I am fairly new to Foucauldian methods and am currently trying to
understand whether the idea of interpretation has any place in
using Foucault's methods. I understand that for Foucault there is
no inside or outside of discourse so in using his methods it is
important to aviod searching for meaning.



My question would be, when analysing data am I just describing the
practices? But then surely my descriptions are only my
interpretation? From what I can see (with my noice minds eye) there
is no way out of interpretation, or am I just talking about two
different things?



Any feedback about this, or useful and informative pieces to read,
or some general feedback on using Foucault would be much appreciated.



Regards

Ian
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