I think Elden has written some stuff on alternate models of
disciplinary power in Foucault's work that F felt were more important
and useful than the Panopticon. Also, toward's the end of Discipline
and Punish, F emphasizes (albeit rather briefly) the diverse nature
and modalities of the various strands of disciplinary power at work in
our society. See B Harcourt's Carceral Notebooks website and book
Illusion of Order for his extension of these ideas to contemporary
forms of prison power, particularly in relation to delinquency.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The paper itself may be premised on a straw man.
>
> Did Foucault ever say the panopticon provided a "metaphor of modern
> society"? It is my understanding that the panopticon is just one example of
> *an ideal* that was current at a time when great faith was placed in
> disciplinary forms of power. And it is also one of the examples Foucualt
> gives to illustrate how disciplinary power works.
>
> But, for Foucault, modern society ≠ disciplinary power
>
> Disciplinary power is one form of power that operates in modern society. By
> the time of his lectures published under the title "Security, Territory,
> Population" Foucault was already moving away from the idea that a
> "disciplinary" age had replaced a previous age based on "sovereignty"; the
> disciplines, legal power (or sovereignty) work together in the same age.
> These combine with a new form he initially called "security," and which he
> later came to call "governmentality."
>
> Nate
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ali Rizvi <ali_m_rizvi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> Someone has asked me to post the following query to the group. Thanks for
>> any
>> help. Ali
>>
>> "I am currently doing an long project (10,000 words) on Focault and
>> analyzing the claim that the panopticon is a successful metaphor for
>> contemporary society. I am looking for strong criticisms to such a
>> claim and was wondering if you knew of any that I could read into."
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>
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disciplinary power in Foucault's work that F felt were more important
and useful than the Panopticon. Also, toward's the end of Discipline
and Punish, F emphasizes (albeit rather briefly) the diverse nature
and modalities of the various strands of disciplinary power at work in
our society. See B Harcourt's Carceral Notebooks website and book
Illusion of Order for his extension of these ideas to contemporary
forms of prison power, particularly in relation to delinquency.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The paper itself may be premised on a straw man.
>
> Did Foucault ever say the panopticon provided a "metaphor of modern
> society"? It is my understanding that the panopticon is just one example of
> *an ideal* that was current at a time when great faith was placed in
> disciplinary forms of power. And it is also one of the examples Foucualt
> gives to illustrate how disciplinary power works.
>
> But, for Foucault, modern society ≠ disciplinary power
>
> Disciplinary power is one form of power that operates in modern society. By
> the time of his lectures published under the title "Security, Territory,
> Population" Foucault was already moving away from the idea that a
> "disciplinary" age had replaced a previous age based on "sovereignty"; the
> disciplines, legal power (or sovereignty) work together in the same age.
> These combine with a new form he initially called "security," and which he
> later came to call "governmentality."
>
> Nate
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ali Rizvi <ali_m_rizvi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> Someone has asked me to post the following query to the group. Thanks for
>> any
>> help. Ali
>>
>> "I am currently doing an long project (10,000 words) on Focault and
>> analyzing the claim that the panopticon is a successful metaphor for
>> contemporary society. I am looking for strong criticisms to such a
>> claim and was wondering if you knew of any that I could read into."
>> _______________________________________________
>> Foucault-L mailing list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Roberts
> Max Planck Institute for the Study of Religious and Ethnic Diversity
> Herman-Föge-Weg 11
> 37073 Göttingen
> Germany
> +49 (0) 551-4956-0
> _______________________________________________
> Foucault-L mailing list
--
Chetan Vemuri
West Des Moines, IA
aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
(319)-512-9318
"You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the world"