Rodrigo
I would add that I don't think (or Foucault) thought that there is ever a
situation where we leave one model of power for another. That is not to say
that one model is not more dominant than another - but that the sovereign,
disciplinary, security, control etc; all exists n different mixes at
different times and places
Martin
On 25 January 2012 03:27, Rodrigo Pennesi <hohodrigo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> dear Kevin,
>
> In Security, Territory, Population Foucault says that the disciplinary
> mecanism, called modern, begins in the XVIII century, but the
> contemporary mecanism is the security.
>
> He raises two points, one is the question that in our societies the
> general economy of power is becoming of the order of security; and the
> possibility that we are seeing the birth of a security society.
>
> The fact that we are seeing the birth of a security society could
> indicate that we are leaving the disciplinary society, but Foucault
> does not say that, at least not that I'm aware of.
>
> Regards,
> Rodrigo.
>
> 2012/1/24 Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Dear Foucault listers,
> >
> > Did Foucault ever actually state anywhere that "we live in a
> disciplinary society" or is this another instance of secondary commentary
> getting attributed back to Foucault?
> >
> > I have searched through all the relevant texts and can find no instance
> of him having said this.
> >
> > There are a number of instances - in Psychiatric Power (p. 66), Society
> Must be Defended (p. 253), Discipline and Punish (p. 216), The Birth of
> Biopolitics (p. 259), for example - where he uses the phrase "disciplinary
> society," but in all these instances, he seems to be referring to the time
> and place under discussion in each respective study, not the present.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin.
> >
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I would add that I don't think (or Foucault) thought that there is ever a
situation where we leave one model of power for another. That is not to say
that one model is not more dominant than another - but that the sovereign,
disciplinary, security, control etc; all exists n different mixes at
different times and places
Martin
On 25 January 2012 03:27, Rodrigo Pennesi <hohodrigo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> dear Kevin,
>
> In Security, Territory, Population Foucault says that the disciplinary
> mecanism, called modern, begins in the XVIII century, but the
> contemporary mecanism is the security.
>
> He raises two points, one is the question that in our societies the
> general economy of power is becoming of the order of security; and the
> possibility that we are seeing the birth of a security society.
>
> The fact that we are seeing the birth of a security society could
> indicate that we are leaving the disciplinary society, but Foucault
> does not say that, at least not that I'm aware of.
>
> Regards,
> Rodrigo.
>
> 2012/1/24 Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Dear Foucault listers,
> >
> > Did Foucault ever actually state anywhere that "we live in a
> disciplinary society" or is this another instance of secondary commentary
> getting attributed back to Foucault?
> >
> > I have searched through all the relevant texts and can find no instance
> of him having said this.
> >
> > There are a number of instances - in Psychiatric Power (p. 66), Society
> Must be Defended (p. 253), Discipline and Punish (p. 216), The Birth of
> Biopolitics (p. 259), for example - where he uses the phrase "disciplinary
> society," but in all these instances, he seems to be referring to the time
> and place under discussion in each respective study, not the present.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin.
> >
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