Re: [Foucault-L] Taylor/Habermas vs. Foucault

An old reply to Taylor is William E. Connolly’s “Taylor, Foucault and Otherness,” Political Theory, 13.3 (1985).

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From: foucault-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foucault-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: 27 January 2015 10:35
To: Mailing-list; Nathaniel Roberts
Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Taylor/Habermas vs. Foucault

Dear Nate,

I'm not sure if it's the source you're thinking of, but I do run an argument of this type in Chapter 6 of *The Political Philosophy of Michel Foucault*.



Dr Mark Kelly

Senior Lecturer and ARC Future Fellow

School of Humanities and Communication Arts University of Western Sydney

On 27 January 2015 at 21:14, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

> Dear List,


> Both Charles Taylor and J. Habermas have criticized Foucault. They

> allege that F's critical analyses of modern forms of power are flawed

> because he does not provide a positive alternative, or a normative

> foundation, in relation to which these forms of power are found

> wanting. Charles Taylor (if I am recalling his argument correctly)

> makes the further claim that Foucault *does* in fact have an

> unacknowledged normative framework, but that he does not make it

> explicit, and that if he did he'd find that F's critical analyses are

> contradictory, because they depend as premises on the very set-up he is criticizing.


> I have always seen these criticisms of Foucault as misplaced. One does

> not need to specify a positive alternative to say one finds something

> "intolerable," as F says of popular initiatives by prisoner and others

> who resist power (in Language, Counter-memory, Practice, p. 216). F

> claims his own analyses are guided, in part, by actually existing

> instances of resistance, but it would be equally coherent, I argue,

> for him simply to say that "I find this intolerable." (I believe he

> actually speaks in the first person like this somewhere, but I can't

> find the quote---I thought it was in D&P.)


> Anyway, coming to my question: does anyone know of a secondary work

> that discusses this issue, and contests Taylor's/Habermas' claim that

> criticism must be premised on some normative framework or positive

> conception of the good? I feel sure I've seen such an argument

> developed somewhere, but I can't recall where.


> The closest thing I've found is Raymond Geuss' essay "Must Criticism

> Be Constructive?" (in "A World without Why"). But this does not

> specifically mention the Foucault or the Taylor/Habermas criticism.


> Best,

> Nate


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