Jivko, I have the impression that you're speculating. There's no reason
why Foucaults concept of biopower couldn't be used to explain structures
of power in China's Ch'in-dynasty of the second century B.C. or the
Rajput weddings in India, or the watermanagement in the South of Irak.
You never studied Chinese or Indian culture didn't you? If you did, you
would know that imperialism is as old as the human race and there's not
been any innocent people or race anywhere ever.
erik
Jivko Georgiev wrote:
> The description of the biopower fits exactly to the
> communistic regime we has expirienced here, in
> Bulgaria. When i read Surveiller et Punir, it seems to
> me as a exact description of the communistic world we
> lived till 1989 y. So Foucault describes the european
> societies, including usa. Dont forget that the
> incorcet called east europe is europe, dont decieve
> yourself- here is "as much europe" as in england. But
> we cannot at all apply this notions to the asian
> world, its a completely different world. We can not
> meat such fantastic phrases like "ethnic cleansing" or
> "biopower" in the region of the near east. The power
> here is mostly the good old theocracy, or the power of
> the greed - the contemporary "name" of the power is
> greed, i think.
>
> Regards!
> Zhivko
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> --- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
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>>> Gee, if you realy was aware about Foucault you
>>
>> should
>>
>>> know that all foucault did was philosophy, all his
>>> work is philosophical. the terms biopower have
>>
>> nothing
>>
>>> to do with sense you try to put it in. Biopower
>>
>> means
>>
>>> the way that the power in the west hugs and rules
>>
>> the
>>
>>> life - the body and its life: its sexuality, the
>>
>> space
>>
>>> of the body, the details of its life
>>
>> Foucault also admitted that though these forms of
>> control had their historical
>> origin in the West they are hardly limited to them.
>> This comes out, for
>> example, when he answers attacks that he cannot
>> differentiate Western liberal
>> states from totalitarian ones because the
>> disciplinary forms of power he
>> identifies exist in both types of state. Really, to
>> suggest that Foucault's
>> writings say nothing about life outside the West, or
>> that his ontology of
>> power cannot say anything about life outside the
>> West, is ludicrous.
>>
>>> Zhivko
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Dr. Nathan Widder
>> Lecturer in Political Theory
>> University of Exeter
>> Department of Politics
>> Amory Building
>> Rennes Drive
>> Exeter EX4 4RJ
>> United Kingdom
>> Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
>> Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
>> http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
>>
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why Foucaults concept of biopower couldn't be used to explain structures
of power in China's Ch'in-dynasty of the second century B.C. or the
Rajput weddings in India, or the watermanagement in the South of Irak.
You never studied Chinese or Indian culture didn't you? If you did, you
would know that imperialism is as old as the human race and there's not
been any innocent people or race anywhere ever.
erik
Jivko Georgiev wrote:
> The description of the biopower fits exactly to the
> communistic regime we has expirienced here, in
> Bulgaria. When i read Surveiller et Punir, it seems to
> me as a exact description of the communistic world we
> lived till 1989 y. So Foucault describes the european
> societies, including usa. Dont forget that the
> incorcet called east europe is europe, dont decieve
> yourself- here is "as much europe" as in england. But
> we cannot at all apply this notions to the asian
> world, its a completely different world. We can not
> meat such fantastic phrases like "ethnic cleansing" or
> "biopower" in the region of the near east. The power
> here is mostly the good old theocracy, or the power of
> the greed - the contemporary "name" of the power is
> greed, i think.
>
> Regards!
> Zhivko
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >===== Original Message From
>
>> foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
>>
>>> Gee, if you realy was aware about Foucault you
>>
>> should
>>
>>> know that all foucault did was philosophy, all his
>>> work is philosophical. the terms biopower have
>>
>> nothing
>>
>>> to do with sense you try to put it in. Biopower
>>
>> means
>>
>>> the way that the power in the west hugs and rules
>>
>> the
>>
>>> life - the body and its life: its sexuality, the
>>
>> space
>>
>>> of the body, the details of its life
>>
>> Foucault also admitted that though these forms of
>> control had their historical
>> origin in the West they are hardly limited to them.
>> This comes out, for
>> example, when he answers attacks that he cannot
>> differentiate Western liberal
>> states from totalitarian ones because the
>> disciplinary forms of power he
>> identifies exist in both types of state. Really, to
>> suggest that Foucault's
>> writings say nothing about life outside the West, or
>> that his ontology of
>> power cannot say anything about life outside the
>> West, is ludicrous.
>>
>>> Zhivko
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Dr. Nathan Widder
>> Lecturer in Political Theory
>> University of Exeter
>> Department of Politics
>> Amory Building
>> Rennes Drive
>> Exeter EX4 4RJ
>> United Kingdom
>> Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
>> Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
>> http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
>>
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