Hi Ali,
that's a good point you make. It's very difficult for me to think about
freedom that way. That's why I was asking, not to read Foucault the way I
think, but to understand what he really means.
Now I'm going to rethink things in those terms. I've got new questions
but maybe I'll find an answer as I develop these ideas.
I need to read more Foucault, considering I've only read
-Technologies of the Self: A Seminar With Michel Foucault;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 1, an Introduction;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 2, The Use of Pleasure;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 3, The Care of The Self;
-A verdade e as formas juridicas.
Knowing that and bearing in mind that I'm interested in the relation
between the subjects and freedom, what should I read next? any suggestions?
Best regards,
Mariana
»-----Mensaje original-----
»De: owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»[mailto:owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]En nombre de Ali Rizvi
»Enviado el: Martes, 08 de Julio de 2003 08:35 p.m.
»Para: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»Asunto: Re: Subjects
»
»
»
»Hi
»
»I think it is a problematic issue only if we take an old view of
»freedom to
»our heart. A view of freedom which counterpose freedom to limits.
»However, I
»believe, Foucuault is working with an entirely different and a new
»conception of freedom where limits are considered as the condition of
»freedom and not necessarily hinderence to it.[And I believe Foucault took
»this conception of freedom from Heidegger] Only cenrtain constellations of
»limits produce domination not limits per se. That is why analysis must be
»concrete and historically specific.
»
»About books I am not sure but Foucault's own books are a starting
»point. May
»be if you have not read Foucualt before start with Foucault Reader.
»
»Best luck.
»ali
»
»
»----Original Message Follows----
»From: Mariana Intagliata <intagliata@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
»Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»Subject: Subjects
»Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:04:18 -0300
»
»Any thoughts on how to reconcile the subject that's a product of the
»technologies of power with the self creating subject of the technologies of
»the self? any books that you can recommend on the matter? is it a
»problematic issue or not?
»
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that's a good point you make. It's very difficult for me to think about
freedom that way. That's why I was asking, not to read Foucault the way I
think, but to understand what he really means.
Now I'm going to rethink things in those terms. I've got new questions
but maybe I'll find an answer as I develop these ideas.
I need to read more Foucault, considering I've only read
-Technologies of the Self: A Seminar With Michel Foucault;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 1, an Introduction;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 2, The Use of Pleasure;
-The History of Sexuality: Volume 3, The Care of The Self;
-A verdade e as formas juridicas.
Knowing that and bearing in mind that I'm interested in the relation
between the subjects and freedom, what should I read next? any suggestions?
Best regards,
Mariana
»-----Mensaje original-----
»De: owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»[mailto:owner-foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]En nombre de Ali Rizvi
»Enviado el: Martes, 08 de Julio de 2003 08:35 p.m.
»Para: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»Asunto: Re: Subjects
»
»
»
»Hi
»
»I think it is a problematic issue only if we take an old view of
»freedom to
»our heart. A view of freedom which counterpose freedom to limits.
»However, I
»believe, Foucuault is working with an entirely different and a new
»conception of freedom where limits are considered as the condition of
»freedom and not necessarily hinderence to it.[And I believe Foucault took
»this conception of freedom from Heidegger] Only cenrtain constellations of
»limits produce domination not limits per se. That is why analysis must be
»concrete and historically specific.
»
»About books I am not sure but Foucault's own books are a starting
»point. May
»be if you have not read Foucualt before start with Foucault Reader.
»
»Best luck.
»ali
»
»
»----Original Message Follows----
»From: Mariana Intagliata <intagliata@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
»Reply-To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
»Subject: Subjects
»Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:04:18 -0300
»
»Any thoughts on how to reconcile the subject that's a product of the
»technologies of power with the self creating subject of the technologies of
»the self? any books that you can recommend on the matter? is it a
»problematic issue or not?
»
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