Hello Leon and Jean-François,
Thank´s about your references. There is a lot of interesting questions on the role of the Secondary Thesis side by side with other moments of Foucault´s "opus", like the relationships between the secondary and primary thesis (Histoire de la Folie), or the work of Beatrice Han, or the comparison of the text with other future foucauldian texts focusing Kant. A lot of this questions are still unexplored. I will work this and next years (if possible) comparing the Secondary T. with Histoire de la Folie. There is a lot of curious questions about the coexistence of these two texts, also unexplored. Any information about new works on the Secondary Thesis or other considerations are very welcome.
best regards,
Marcio
Jean-François Mongrain <jean.frm@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: I can also recommend the excellent work of Mariapaola Fiamini (This is the french translation to an italian book), perhaps the most extensive work on the relationship between Kant and Foucault.
FIAMINI, Mariapaola, Foucault et Kant. Critique Clinique Éthique. L'Harmattan, 1998.
I would also recommend La vérité et les formes juridiques, (1974) Dits et Écrits infra 139. (pp. 1406-1513 in the Quarto édition) in which Foucault explain his position in regards to kantian epistemology.
It is also interresting to note that Lyotard's Kant and Foucault's Kant share some similarities :
LYOTARD, Jean-François, Le différend, Éditions de minuit, 1983.
----, L'enthousiasme. La critique kantienne de l'histoire, Éditions Galilée, 1986.
Jean-François
2006/2/8, Leon Farhi Neto <leon@xxxxxxxxx >:In his text Foucault gives a very particular place to Kant's
"Anthropologie in pragmatischer Hinsicht"
? one of the latests books Kant published (1798) -
in the totality of Kant's works.
Foucault has translated this book into French and published it in 1964.
Anthropologie du point de vue pragmatique. Paris: J. Vrin.
When we read Kant's Anthropology we experience
a strange feeling, since many passages seem to be
contradictory with the critical texts, and Kant is not exactly
the writer from whom we could expect contradictions...
But those are not real ones,
since the critical and the anthropological texts don't have the
same reference. The man-subject of the Critics is not
the same of the object-man of the Anthropology.
In fact, Foucault identifies three irreducible domains in Kant's work:
the Critics, the Anthropology and
the incipient Transcendental Philosophy
(which consists of some fragments in the opus postumum).
They are irreducible (irréductibles) because
this three domains cannot collapse one into the other.
There is an excellent article (in Spanish)
to understand the Foucault's thesis and its construction:
GROS, Frédéric; DÁVILA, Jorge (1996): Michel Foucault, lector de Kant.
38 f.
Venezuela: Consejo de Publicaciones de la Universidade de los Andes.
Access: <http://www.comunidadandina.org/bda/ficha_bda.asp?registro=89>.
Leon
psicopr wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I´m very curious about the uses of the Secondary Thesis on Kant, after
> the sharing of the text last year, and the posterior divulgation at
> various websites. What do you think about the impact of the
> argumentation of secondary thesis related with other texts (like
> Histoire de la Folie, Le Mots et les Choses, and/or others)? What do
> you think about the quality of the transcription?
>
> best regards,
>
> Marcio
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Thank´s about your references. There is a lot of interesting questions on the role of the Secondary Thesis side by side with other moments of Foucault´s "opus", like the relationships between the secondary and primary thesis (Histoire de la Folie), or the work of Beatrice Han, or the comparison of the text with other future foucauldian texts focusing Kant. A lot of this questions are still unexplored. I will work this and next years (if possible) comparing the Secondary T. with Histoire de la Folie. There is a lot of curious questions about the coexistence of these two texts, also unexplored. Any information about new works on the Secondary Thesis or other considerations are very welcome.
best regards,
Marcio
Jean-François Mongrain <jean.frm@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: I can also recommend the excellent work of Mariapaola Fiamini (This is the french translation to an italian book), perhaps the most extensive work on the relationship between Kant and Foucault.
FIAMINI, Mariapaola, Foucault et Kant. Critique Clinique Éthique. L'Harmattan, 1998.
I would also recommend La vérité et les formes juridiques, (1974) Dits et Écrits infra 139. (pp. 1406-1513 in the Quarto édition) in which Foucault explain his position in regards to kantian epistemology.
It is also interresting to note that Lyotard's Kant and Foucault's Kant share some similarities :
LYOTARD, Jean-François, Le différend, Éditions de minuit, 1983.
----, L'enthousiasme. La critique kantienne de l'histoire, Éditions Galilée, 1986.
Jean-François
2006/2/8, Leon Farhi Neto <leon@xxxxxxxxx >:In his text Foucault gives a very particular place to Kant's
"Anthropologie in pragmatischer Hinsicht"
? one of the latests books Kant published (1798) -
in the totality of Kant's works.
Foucault has translated this book into French and published it in 1964.
Anthropologie du point de vue pragmatique. Paris: J. Vrin.
When we read Kant's Anthropology we experience
a strange feeling, since many passages seem to be
contradictory with the critical texts, and Kant is not exactly
the writer from whom we could expect contradictions...
But those are not real ones,
since the critical and the anthropological texts don't have the
same reference. The man-subject of the Critics is not
the same of the object-man of the Anthropology.
In fact, Foucault identifies three irreducible domains in Kant's work:
the Critics, the Anthropology and
the incipient Transcendental Philosophy
(which consists of some fragments in the opus postumum).
They are irreducible (irréductibles) because
this three domains cannot collapse one into the other.
There is an excellent article (in Spanish)
to understand the Foucault's thesis and its construction:
GROS, Frédéric; DÁVILA, Jorge (1996): Michel Foucault, lector de Kant.
38 f.
Venezuela: Consejo de Publicaciones de la Universidade de los Andes.
Access: <http://www.comunidadandina.org/bda/ficha_bda.asp?registro=89>.
Leon
psicopr wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I´m very curious about the uses of the Secondary Thesis on Kant, after
> the sharing of the text last year, and the posterior divulgation at
> various websites. What do you think about the impact of the
> argumentation of secondary thesis related with other texts (like
> Histoire de la Folie, Le Mots et les Choses, and/or others)? What do
> you think about the quality of the transcription?
>
> best regards,
>
> Marcio
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yahoo! Search
> Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil.
> < http://br.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=bbb+OR+%22big+brother%22&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt&fr=intl-mail-br-b>
>
>
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'Sede homens, caros amigos, e ardor demonstrai combativo!
Possa o respeito recíproco a todos na pugna dar ânimo.
São mais poupados na guerra os que sabem morrer briosamente,
ao passo que os fugitivos nem glória obterão, nem defesa'"
Ilíada, canto V
http://www.geocities.com/bernardorieux
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