Hi David, hi everybody,
its good to hear that the birth of biopolitcs is finally out in english. It has been a pleasure to read for me some years ago, because it is a lot about ordo-liberals and neoclassic economists (who are favourite enemys of mine). Are there some new readings on Foucault's treatment of economics? Are there some new (for example marxist) treatments of the fact that Foucault does not seem to support eonomic theories at all?
Yours Claudius
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Jason,
Thomas Lemke's translation is quite different, but it appears on page
73 of Rabinow (ed), Michel Foucault, Ethics: Subjectivity and Truth.
It is the first page of that course summary.
The whole thing is rather short; as Machiel says I would get the book
of the course instead.
best wishes
David
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its good to hear that the birth of biopolitcs is finally out in english. It has been a pleasure to read for me some years ago, because it is a lot about ordo-liberals and neoclassic economists (who are favourite enemys of mine). Are there some new readings on Foucault's treatment of economics? Are there some new (for example marxist) treatments of the fact that Foucault does not seem to support eonomic theories at all?
Yours Claudius
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Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Biopolitics, Liberalism--quote from Dits et Ecrits
Jason,
Thomas Lemke's translation is quite different, but it appears on page
73 of Rabinow (ed), Michel Foucault, Ethics: Subjectivity and Truth.
It is the first page of that course summary.
The whole thing is rather short; as Machiel says I would get the book
of the course instead.
best wishes
David
On 20/04/2009, at 5:25 PM, M. Karskens wrote:
The quote is from the overview of the course of
1979, that was written afterwards and published
in the Annuaire of the Collège de France. The
Course itself is much more interestiing, it is translated now in
English
yours,
machiel karskens
At 00:10 19-4-2009, you wrote:
In his article on biopolitics, Thomas Lemke
quotes Foucault on the connection between biopolitics and liberalism:
'[Foucault] stresses that the problems of biopolitics “cannot be
separated from the frame of political rationality, in which they
appeared and were aggravated. Especially not from ‘liberalism’, since
by referring to this rationality they got the form of a provocation.
How can the phenomenon of the ‘population’ with its specific effects
and problems be taken into account by a system that endorses the
respect for a subject of rights and for the freedom of choice? In
whose
name and by what rules may they be governed?”
(Dits et Escrits: 818, translation T.L.; see also 822-3).
Can anyone tell me what the source text of this
quote is (as indicated above, it's Lemke's
translation). This sounds like it came from the
1979 Birth of Biopolitics lectures.
The answer to the question Foucault posed, by the way, is civil
society.
Jason R. Weidner
PhD. candidate, Department of International Relations
Florida International University
Miami, FL USA
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social and political philosophy
Faculty of Philosophy
Radboud University Nijmegen - The Netherlands
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