the 80's is too long ago to remember
On 5 June 2010 13:52, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> Please note that Foucault died in 1984, not 1994. McInnerny's comments
> refer to 1984. But you are certainly right that lots of undergraduates
> were
> using the internet by 1994.
>
> Nate
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Thomas Lord <lord@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > So, sure - he didn't live to see the pervasive
> > implications of the Internet per se but a couple
> > of things:
> >
> > 1) He did live long enough to get a taste for what
> > computing and networking might bring (by decades)
> > hence my fishing for cites. That's why I asked.
> >
> >
> > 2) By 1994 (per Mr. McInnerny's comment) *lots* of
> > undergrads were using the Internet. Big time.
> >
> > I do have a distorted lens perspective of coming out of the
> > Carnegie Mellon University environment but at least there
> > and at quite a few other campuses - Internet access and use was
> > fairly ubiquitous almost a decade before that. The web
> > didn't quite yet exist although lots of people were trying
> > to get it started - but the 'net was in full swing on a bunch
> > of campuses.
> >
> > I appreciate both comments and any cites that might
> > crop up. I'm just fishing to see if there's some stuff
> > I wasn't aware of in his writings.
> >
> > -t
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 07:41 +1000, martin hardie wrote:
> > > yes I thought that Mr David
> > >
> > > But then maybe you have to jump to good old D&G ... eg Postscript on
> > control
> > > societies to continue the Foucault trail?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 28 May 2010 07:37, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Given when he died I imagine there wasn't much to say.
> > > >
> > > > Back in 1984 people were still getting excited over the new AT MS-DOS
> > > > machines with two 5.25" floppy disks and even in 1987 I was informed
> > > > in hushed tones as a new employee about the amazing 20MB hard drive
> > > > that the big insurance company I worked for had installed and which
> > > > they were hoping to eventually scan and store all of the insurance
> > > > policies on! Even in 1994 the internet was a huge deal and only a
> > > > few people I knew had access to it, generally academics using
> > > > university infrastructure. I didn't know any undergrad students who
> > > > had used it.
> > > >
> > > > Back in 1984 it was people posting modem addresses in magazines and
> > > > communicating one-to-one as far as I can remember.
> > > >
> > > > So no I wouldn't expect anything in Foucault's work itself, but I'd
> > > > be interested to see what people have done with his work since to
> > > > discuss the matter
> > > >
> > > > D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 28/05/2010, at 6:53 AM, Thomas Lord wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did Foucault write anything about computing,
> > > > > software, networking, and so forth? His mode
> > > > > of analysis seems to have a lot of relevance
> > > > > to today's Internet but I'm wondering what he
> > > > > might have written directly about such technology.
> > > > >
> > > > > -t
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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On 5 June 2010 13:52, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> Please note that Foucault died in 1984, not 1994. McInnerny's comments
> refer to 1984. But you are certainly right that lots of undergraduates
> were
> using the internet by 1994.
>
> Nate
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Thomas Lord <lord@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > So, sure - he didn't live to see the pervasive
> > implications of the Internet per se but a couple
> > of things:
> >
> > 1) He did live long enough to get a taste for what
> > computing and networking might bring (by decades)
> > hence my fishing for cites. That's why I asked.
> >
> >
> > 2) By 1994 (per Mr. McInnerny's comment) *lots* of
> > undergrads were using the Internet. Big time.
> >
> > I do have a distorted lens perspective of coming out of the
> > Carnegie Mellon University environment but at least there
> > and at quite a few other campuses - Internet access and use was
> > fairly ubiquitous almost a decade before that. The web
> > didn't quite yet exist although lots of people were trying
> > to get it started - but the 'net was in full swing on a bunch
> > of campuses.
> >
> > I appreciate both comments and any cites that might
> > crop up. I'm just fishing to see if there's some stuff
> > I wasn't aware of in his writings.
> >
> > -t
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 07:41 +1000, martin hardie wrote:
> > > yes I thought that Mr David
> > >
> > > But then maybe you have to jump to good old D&G ... eg Postscript on
> > control
> > > societies to continue the Foucault trail?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 28 May 2010 07:37, David McInerney <vagabond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Given when he died I imagine there wasn't much to say.
> > > >
> > > > Back in 1984 people were still getting excited over the new AT MS-DOS
> > > > machines with two 5.25" floppy disks and even in 1987 I was informed
> > > > in hushed tones as a new employee about the amazing 20MB hard drive
> > > > that the big insurance company I worked for had installed and which
> > > > they were hoping to eventually scan and store all of the insurance
> > > > policies on! Even in 1994 the internet was a huge deal and only a
> > > > few people I knew had access to it, generally academics using
> > > > university infrastructure. I didn't know any undergrad students who
> > > > had used it.
> > > >
> > > > Back in 1984 it was people posting modem addresses in magazines and
> > > > communicating one-to-one as far as I can remember.
> > > >
> > > > So no I wouldn't expect anything in Foucault's work itself, but I'd
> > > > be interested to see what people have done with his work since to
> > > > discuss the matter
> > > >
> > > > D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 28/05/2010, at 6:53 AM, Thomas Lord wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did Foucault write anything about computing,
> > > > > software, networking, and so forth? His mode
> > > > > of analysis seems to have a lot of relevance
> > > > > to today's Internet but I'm wondering what he
> > > > > might have written directly about such technology.
> > > > >
> > > > > -t
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Foucault-L mailing list
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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> Nathaniel Roberts
> Visiting Scholar
> Department of South Asia Studies
> University of Pennsylvania
> 820 Williams Hall, 255 S. 36th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
> USA
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