Yes, this Balibar article is translated in English in the book "Michel
Foucault Philosopher" (1989), by Timothy J. Armstrong.
Best,
Emmanoel Boff
2012/2/6 Karskens, M.L.J. (Machiel) <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx>
> This is Balibar's article Foucault et Marx. L'enjeu du nominalisme.
> It is reprinted in Balibar's 1997 book La crainte des Masses (Paris:
> Galilée) which is, I think, translated in English.
>
> yours
> machiel karskens
> ----- "Chathan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: "Chathan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Mailing-list" <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 1:05:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Marx and Foucault
> >
> > Very good response Ari
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:51 AM, ari <ari@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Foucault recognised the Left as his 'family' (I guess with all the
> > > infighting, dysfunctional and authoritarian relationships that it
> > > entails). At the time of the stale debate you are reproducing here
> > I
> > > felt that Balibar's essay on Power and Value was intelligent and
> > thought
> > > provoking. I can't remember where it is, perhaps in Michel
> > Foucault
> > > philosopher, the collection.
> > > Thankfully things have moved on, both in Marxist theory and
> > Foucauldian
> > > investigations. I don't think you can dispense with either for an
> > > effective critique of capitalism. But we should certainly dispense
> > with
> > > historical revisionism, whatever its colour.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:47:30 -0600, Chathan Vemuri wrote:
> > >> I've asked some people I know with expertise on the matter but
> > >> thought
> > >> I'd get a better range of responses here. Me and some Marxist
> > friends
> > >> were discussing the Power and Strategies interview where Foucault
> > >> talks about the Gulag. My friends felt he was creating a straw man
> > by
> > >> suggesting Marxism and Leninism be examined in light of the
> > reality
> > >> of
> > >> the Gulag. They went to further to castigate Foucault for
> > >> inadvertently being in theoretical alliance with liberal thought
> > that
> > >> only further ignored the necessary critique of capitalism. While I
> > >> think they are right about Power and Strategies, I'm not sure if
> > the
> > >> other argument follows. Indeed it seems to be a common theme in
> > >> Marx-Foucault comparisons. Foucauldians, on the other hand, feel
> > no
> > >> guilt in writing off Marxists as intellectual dinosaurs who have
> > at
> > >> best contributed to failed political killing machines (Stalin,
> > Mao,
> > >> Che). Does anyone on here know of some good arguments or even
> > books
> > >> that go beyond these useless exchanges? I personally feel there's
> > a
> > >> certain kinship between the two thinkers in terms of
> > subjectiviation,
> > >> power relations, concern with historicization. And how would one
> > >> respond to such pointless jabs to begin with. I wasn't convinced
> > of
> > >> Foucault's neat link between Marx and Soviet repression but I
> > hardly
> > >> think that his critique is akin to a liberal philosophy of the
> > state.
> > >
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> >
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Foucault Philosopher" (1989), by Timothy J. Armstrong.
Best,
Emmanoel Boff
2012/2/6 Karskens, M.L.J. (Machiel) <mkarskens@xxxxxxxxxx>
> This is Balibar's article Foucault et Marx. L'enjeu du nominalisme.
> It is reprinted in Balibar's 1997 book La crainte des Masses (Paris:
> Galilée) which is, I think, translated in English.
>
> yours
> machiel karskens
> ----- "Chathan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: "Chathan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Mailing-list" <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 1:05:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Foucault-L] Marx and Foucault
> >
> > Very good response Ari
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 5:51 AM, ari <ari@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Foucault recognised the Left as his 'family' (I guess with all the
> > > infighting, dysfunctional and authoritarian relationships that it
> > > entails). At the time of the stale debate you are reproducing here
> > I
> > > felt that Balibar's essay on Power and Value was intelligent and
> > thought
> > > provoking. I can't remember where it is, perhaps in Michel
> > Foucault
> > > philosopher, the collection.
> > > Thankfully things have moved on, both in Marxist theory and
> > Foucauldian
> > > investigations. I don't think you can dispense with either for an
> > > effective critique of capitalism. But we should certainly dispense
> > with
> > > historical revisionism, whatever its colour.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:47:30 -0600, Chathan Vemuri wrote:
> > >> I've asked some people I know with expertise on the matter but
> > >> thought
> > >> I'd get a better range of responses here. Me and some Marxist
> > friends
> > >> were discussing the Power and Strategies interview where Foucault
> > >> talks about the Gulag. My friends felt he was creating a straw man
> > by
> > >> suggesting Marxism and Leninism be examined in light of the
> > reality
> > >> of
> > >> the Gulag. They went to further to castigate Foucault for
> > >> inadvertently being in theoretical alliance with liberal thought
> > that
> > >> only further ignored the necessary critique of capitalism. While I
> > >> think they are right about Power and Strategies, I'm not sure if
> > the
> > >> other argument follows. Indeed it seems to be a common theme in
> > >> Marx-Foucault comparisons. Foucauldians, on the other hand, feel
> > no
> > >> guilt in writing off Marxists as intellectual dinosaurs who have
> > at
> > >> best contributed to failed political killing machines (Stalin,
> > Mao,
> > >> Che). Does anyone on here know of some good arguments or even
> > books
> > >> that go beyond these useless exchanges? I personally feel there's
> > a
> > >> certain kinship between the two thinkers in terms of
> > subjectiviation,
> > >> power relations, concern with historicization. And how would one
> > >> respond to such pointless jabs to begin with. I wasn't convinced
> > of
> > >> Foucault's neat link between Marx and Soviet repression but I
> > hardly
> > >> think that his critique is akin to a liberal philosophy of the
> > state.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Foucault-L mailing list
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chathan Vemuri
> >
> > 900 58th Street
> > West Des Moines, IA 50266
> > chathan-vemuri@xxxxxxxxx
> > (319)-512-9318
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Foucault-L mailing list
>
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