I appreciate how Stuart Eldon approached this question. I wonder if a way
to connect Foucault's work in this discussion about nationalism is to
identify some of the discourses that have gone into the nationalism
literature. Much of what I have read has been structuralist or humanist
explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was avoiding. I am trying to
use the concept of governmentality to ask what kinds of national imaginaries
have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a way I am using Foucault's
concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but my interests intersect
with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this worsens the understanding.
I hope not.
Lisa
-----Original Message-----
From: Jivko Georgiev [mailto:jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums
> If you can't see how biopower relates to
> nationalism, I don't know what to
> tell you.
>
neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing, honestly.
The nationalism was a question foucault never cared
about. But my research showed me that "ethnic
cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the first
page of every western newspapper and magazin. And i
say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these guys?
Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which the
national borders doesnt exist anymore, and in which
everyone is nomore of his own race, this world has as
a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing -
this western world is forcing, through the help of the
weapon, the other world to confest that he, the
biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is doing
the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the world
doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy?
Assertion of rights and authorship? How Foucauldian
> is this?
How?
Regards!
Jivko
--- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >===== Original Message From
> foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
> >Calm down.
>
> Some of us are calm when writing this.
>
> >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault has
> >never, absolutely never dealed with any questions
> of
> >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were never
> among
> >his problems. never.
>
> >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for 500
> >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the right
> to
> >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are
> always a
> >trouble.
>
>
>
> >"... Goodness,
>
> Nathan
>
> Dr. Nathan Widder
> Lecturer in Political Theory
> University of Exeter
> Department of Politics
> Amory Building
> Rennes Drive
> Exeter EX4 4RJ
> United Kingdom
> Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
> Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
> http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
>
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to connect Foucault's work in this discussion about nationalism is to
identify some of the discourses that have gone into the nationalism
literature. Much of what I have read has been structuralist or humanist
explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was avoiding. I am trying to
use the concept of governmentality to ask what kinds of national imaginaries
have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a way I am using Foucault's
concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but my interests intersect
with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this worsens the understanding.
I hope not.
Lisa
-----Original Message-----
From: Jivko Georgiev [mailto:jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM
To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums
> If you can't see how biopower relates to
> nationalism, I don't know what to
> tell you.
>
neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing, honestly.
The nationalism was a question foucault never cared
about. But my research showed me that "ethnic
cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the first
page of every western newspapper and magazin. And i
say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these guys?
Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which the
national borders doesnt exist anymore, and in which
everyone is nomore of his own race, this world has as
a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing -
this western world is forcing, through the help of the
weapon, the other world to confest that he, the
biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is doing
the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the world
doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy?
Assertion of rights and authorship? How Foucauldian
> is this?
How?
Regards!
Jivko
--- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >===== Original Message From
> foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
> >Calm down.
>
> Some of us are calm when writing this.
>
> >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault has
> >never, absolutely never dealed with any questions
> of
> >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were never
> among
> >his problems. never.
>
> >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for 500
> >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the right
> to
> >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are
> always a
> >trouble.
>
>
>
> >"... Goodness,
>
> Nathan
>
> Dr. Nathan Widder
> Lecturer in Political Theory
> University of Exeter
> Department of Politics
> Amory Building
> Rennes Drive
> Exeter EX4 4RJ
> United Kingdom
> Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
> Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
> http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
>
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