"Its concepts--the discursive formation, esp--seem dated. If
you want a text whose concepts you can immediately plug in to your own work,
the _Archaeology_ is not for you."
I'm sorry but I don't think I agree with that.
I've found use for that notion in particular in several recent papers I've
read for various classes.
As well as notions on the Archive, the statement and extensions of the
analysis of epistemology done in Order of Things.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Dave Tell <davetell@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Today I'll be teaching the _Archaeology of Knowledge_ to my graduate
> seminar. Although it is the first time I have ever taught the text, I have
> read it a handful of times.
>
> Yesterday, in the student union where I work, I bumped into an acquaintance
> of mine, a professor of sociology. When it came up that I was teaching the
> _Archaeology_, she replied, "I didn't know anyone assigned that book
> anymore."
>
> She had a point, there is probably good reason not to assign the
> _Archaeology_. Its concepts--the discursive formation, esp--seem dated. If
> you want a text whose concepts you can immediately plug in to your own
> work,
> the _Archaeology_ is not for you.
>
> If, on the other hand, (and this is what I wish I'd told her) you want to
> appreciate Foucault's thought, I think AK is essential. Not that you can't
> appreciate the stuff of the mid-1970s without it, but there is in fact a
> methodological continuity to Foucault's work, and (for me at least) the AK
> has deepened my appreciation of what followed it.
>
> One text that helped me appreciate the AK: the Brazilian lectures of 1973
> collected as "Truth and Juridical Forms." These lectures seem to be
> janus-faced: looking back to AK and forward to the mid-70s.
>
> Finally, I've tried to read A Thousand Plateaus several times, and never
> understood it. Perhaps I should try again.
>
> Best,
> Dave Tell
>
>
> On 1/28/09 4:38 AM, "Chetan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I'll definitely check out "Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in
> Western
> > Literature"
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Chetan Vemuri
> > <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> I've read A Thousand Plateaus!
> >> One of my favorites actually, and I'm disappointed many still write it
> off
> >> as part of the eccentric work done with Guattari, while celebrating
> >> "Difference and Repetition" or "The Logic of Sense".
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM, michael bibby
> >> <shmickeyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I should like to add another 'companion', let us say, which sits quite
> >>> comfortably on a book-shelf alongside the Archaeology besides Mimesis,
> and
> >>> that is A Thousand Plateaus. These are books which I have come to read
> >>> together and see as parts of a much larger text which cuts accross the
> >>> slender space in which their individual covers dont quite enclose them
> but
> >>> see them open upon one another as they enter into mutually enhancing
> >>> relations with each other.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [Foucault-L] Archaeology of Knowledge and use of its overall
> >>> program
> >>> To: "Mailing-list" <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Received: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 12:21 AM
> >>>
> >>> Some think The Archaeology of Knowledge is a quirky text whose program
> can
> >>> be used in parts and that its impractical to apply his entire method as
> >>> detailed in the entire book.
> >>> I disagree with this criticism as I think there are successful ways of
> >>> utilizing the full program and potent of The Archaeology.
> >>> any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Chetan Vemuri
> >>> West Des Moines, IA
> >>> aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> (515)-418-2771
> >>> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change
> the
> >>> world"
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Foucault-L mailing list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter
> inbox.
> >>> Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Foucault-L mailing list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chetan Vemuri
> >> West Des Moines, IA
> >> aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
> >> (515)-418-2771
> >> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
> >> world"
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Dave Tell
> Dept. of Communication Studies
> The University of Kansas
> http://www.people.ku.edu/~davetell <http://www.people.ku.edu/%7Edavetell>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Foucault-L mailing list
>
--
Chetan Vemuri
West Des Moines, IA
aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
(515)-418-2771
"You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
world"
you want a text whose concepts you can immediately plug in to your own work,
the _Archaeology_ is not for you."
I'm sorry but I don't think I agree with that.
I've found use for that notion in particular in several recent papers I've
read for various classes.
As well as notions on the Archive, the statement and extensions of the
analysis of epistemology done in Order of Things.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Dave Tell <davetell@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Today I'll be teaching the _Archaeology of Knowledge_ to my graduate
> seminar. Although it is the first time I have ever taught the text, I have
> read it a handful of times.
>
> Yesterday, in the student union where I work, I bumped into an acquaintance
> of mine, a professor of sociology. When it came up that I was teaching the
> _Archaeology_, she replied, "I didn't know anyone assigned that book
> anymore."
>
> She had a point, there is probably good reason not to assign the
> _Archaeology_. Its concepts--the discursive formation, esp--seem dated. If
> you want a text whose concepts you can immediately plug in to your own
> work,
> the _Archaeology_ is not for you.
>
> If, on the other hand, (and this is what I wish I'd told her) you want to
> appreciate Foucault's thought, I think AK is essential. Not that you can't
> appreciate the stuff of the mid-1970s without it, but there is in fact a
> methodological continuity to Foucault's work, and (for me at least) the AK
> has deepened my appreciation of what followed it.
>
> One text that helped me appreciate the AK: the Brazilian lectures of 1973
> collected as "Truth and Juridical Forms." These lectures seem to be
> janus-faced: looking back to AK and forward to the mid-70s.
>
> Finally, I've tried to read A Thousand Plateaus several times, and never
> understood it. Perhaps I should try again.
>
> Best,
> Dave Tell
>
>
> On 1/28/09 4:38 AM, "Chetan Vemuri" <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I'll definitely check out "Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in
> Western
> > Literature"
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Chetan Vemuri
> > <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> >> I've read A Thousand Plateaus!
> >> One of my favorites actually, and I'm disappointed many still write it
> off
> >> as part of the eccentric work done with Guattari, while celebrating
> >> "Difference and Repetition" or "The Logic of Sense".
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM, michael bibby
> >> <shmickeyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I should like to add another 'companion', let us say, which sits quite
> >>> comfortably on a book-shelf alongside the Archaeology besides Mimesis,
> and
> >>> that is A Thousand Plateaus. These are books which I have come to read
> >>> together and see as parts of a much larger text which cuts accross the
> >>> slender space in which their individual covers dont quite enclose them
> but
> >>> see them open upon one another as they enter into mutually enhancing
> >>> relations with each other.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [Foucault-L] Archaeology of Knowledge and use of its overall
> >>> program
> >>> To: "Mailing-list" <foucault-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Received: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 12:21 AM
> >>>
> >>> Some think The Archaeology of Knowledge is a quirky text whose program
> can
> >>> be used in parts and that its impractical to apply his entire method as
> >>> detailed in the entire book.
> >>> I disagree with this criticism as I think there are successful ways of
> >>> utilizing the full program and potent of The Archaeology.
> >>> any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Chetan Vemuri
> >>> West Des Moines, IA
> >>> aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> (515)-418-2771
> >>> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change
> the
> >>> world"
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Foucault-L mailing list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter
> inbox.
> >>> Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Foucault-L mailing list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chetan Vemuri
> >> West Des Moines, IA
> >> aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
> >> (515)-418-2771
> >> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
> >> world"
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Dave Tell
> Dept. of Communication Studies
> The University of Kansas
> http://www.people.ku.edu/~davetell <http://www.people.ku.edu/%7Edavetell>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Foucault-L mailing list
>
--
Chetan Vemuri
West Des Moines, IA
aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
(515)-418-2771
"You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
world"