Re: [Foucault-L] Surveiller Et Punir translation

I must admit that as a French when i first head the English title i was also a bit puzzled even if it sounds very good. Discipline seems quite far from "Surveiller". A possibility would have been the verb WATCH as in WATCHMAN, WATCHDOG and it would have capture the panopticon idea.
The English title is very marketing.
But i think i read that Michel Foucault was not fond of his French title either.
Thomas


Le 8 mai 09 à 15:33, David Shumway a écrit :

The English translation is DISCIPLINE AND PUNISH, not "punishment."
Both terms are verbs, but not infinitives as are those in the French
title. There is no exact equivalent to "Surveiller" in English; it does
not mean surveillance in the usual sense of that word in English.
Moreover a title that used the exact cognates, "To survey and to
punish," would neither be clear nor catchy. Thus the choice of present
tense verbs, for which again, "survey" does not work. Finally, one could
argue that the English title actually better reflects the focus of the
book because "discipline" is a more important concept there than is
surveillance.

David

Tamir Sorek wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone can help me to solve the following puzzle: Why did Michel
Foucault ask to translate the title of his book "Surveiller Et Punir" to
"Discipline and Punishment" in English, instead of "Surveillance and
Punishment"? Did he think that his French title was misunderstood?

Thank you in advance for your help,

Tamir Sorek




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