In my opinion:
Immanence implies that power relations are constitutive of their own
organization (which is constituted by them). The organization as an effect
of power relations, is not really different from them. In this cause-effect
way of expression, the organized set of power relations is* “causa sui” *and
lasts until ist difficult-to-explain self-transformation, named the
“évènement”.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In "La volonté de savoir" Foucault states: 'Par pouvoir, il me semble qu'il
> faut comprendre d'abord la multiplicité des rapports de force qui sont
> immanents au domaine où ils s'exercent, et sont constitutifs de leur
> organisation' (VS: 121-122).
>
> The published English translation reads: 'It seems to me that power must be
> understood in the first instance as the multiplicity of force relations
> immanent in the sphere in which they operate and which constitute their own
> organization (WK: 92).
>
> My more literal translation reads: 'With power, it seems to me that we must
> first understand the multiplicity of relations of force that are immanent
> in/to the domain in which they are exercised, and [that] are constitutive
> of
> their organisation.'
>
> And my question concerns the "their" in the second part of the statement
> (are constitutive of "their" organisation).
>
> Is this "their" referring to the "relations of force," to the "domain" in
> which they are exercised, to that "exercise," or to all three?
>
> Stated otherwise, "what is constitutive (relations of force?) and what is
> being organised (relations of force? The domain? The exercise?)?"
>
> Regards,
> Kevin.
>
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Immanence implies that power relations are constitutive of their own
organization (which is constituted by them). The organization as an effect
of power relations, is not really different from them. In this cause-effect
way of expression, the organized set of power relations is* “causa sui” *and
lasts until ist difficult-to-explain self-transformation, named the
“évènement”.
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Kevin Turner <kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In "La volonté de savoir" Foucault states: 'Par pouvoir, il me semble qu'il
> faut comprendre d'abord la multiplicité des rapports de force qui sont
> immanents au domaine où ils s'exercent, et sont constitutifs de leur
> organisation' (VS: 121-122).
>
> The published English translation reads: 'It seems to me that power must be
> understood in the first instance as the multiplicity of force relations
> immanent in the sphere in which they operate and which constitute their own
> organization (WK: 92).
>
> My more literal translation reads: 'With power, it seems to me that we must
> first understand the multiplicity of relations of force that are immanent
> in/to the domain in which they are exercised, and [that] are constitutive
> of
> their organisation.'
>
> And my question concerns the "their" in the second part of the statement
> (are constitutive of "their" organisation).
>
> Is this "their" referring to the "relations of force," to the "domain" in
> which they are exercised, to that "exercise," or to all three?
>
> Stated otherwise, "what is constitutive (relations of force?) and what is
> being organised (relations of force? The domain? The exercise?)?"
>
> Regards,
> Kevin.
>
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