Tell that to Ho Chi Min.
>>> jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx 07/15/01 15:30 PM >>>
I repeat: the nationalism concern only the western
world. To the rest of the world it is irrelevant.
Michel Foucault knew it is a unimportenant issue, and
he avoided it.
Zhivko
--- "Hennon, Lisa" <hennon@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I appreciate how Stuart Eldon approached this
> question. I wonder if a way
> to connect Foucault's work in this discussion about
> nationalism is to
> identify some of the discourses that have gone into
> the nationalism
> literature. Much of what I have read has been
> structuralist or humanist
> explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was
> avoiding. I am trying to
> use the concept of governmentality to ask what kinds
> of national imaginaries
> have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a way I
> am using Foucault's
> concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but my
> interests intersect
> with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this
> worsens the understanding.
> I hope not.
>
> Lisa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jivko Georgiev
> [mailto:jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums
>
>
> > If you can't see how biopower relates to
> > nationalism, I don't know what to
> > tell you.
> >
> neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing,
> honestly.
> The nationalism was a question foucault never cared
> about. But my research showed me that "ethnic
> cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the
> first
> page of every western newspapper and magazin. And i
> say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these guys?
> Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which
> the
> national borders doesn exist anymore, and in which
> everyone is nomore of his own race, this world has
> as
> a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing -
> this western world is forcing, through the help of
> the
> weapon, the other world to confest that he, the
> biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is doing
> the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the world
> doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy?
>
> Assertion of rights and authorship? How Foucauldian
> > is this?
> How?
>
> Regards!
> Jivko
> --- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >===== Original Message From
> > foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
> > >Calm down.
> >
> > Some of us are calm when writing this.
> >
> > >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault has
> > >never, absolutely never dealed with any questions
> > of
> > >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were never
> > among
> > >his problems. never.
> >
> > >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for 500
> > >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the
> right
> > to
> > >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are
> > always a
> > >trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> > >"... Goodness,
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > Dr. Nathan Widder
> > Lecturer in Political Theory
> > University of Exeter
> > Department of Politics
> > Amory Building
> > Rennes Drive
> > Exeter EX4 4RJ
> > United Kingdom
> > Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
> > Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
> > http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
> >
>
>
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>>> jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx 07/15/01 15:30 PM >>>
I repeat: the nationalism concern only the western
world. To the rest of the world it is irrelevant.
Michel Foucault knew it is a unimportenant issue, and
he avoided it.
Zhivko
--- "Hennon, Lisa" <hennon@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I appreciate how Stuart Eldon approached this
> question. I wonder if a way
> to connect Foucault's work in this discussion about
> nationalism is to
> identify some of the discourses that have gone into
> the nationalism
> literature. Much of what I have read has been
> structuralist or humanist
> explanations, ways of reasoning that Foucault was
> avoiding. I am trying to
> use the concept of governmentality to ask what kinds
> of national imaginaries
> have informed U.S. education sciences, so in a way I
> am using Foucault's
> concepts rather than concepts of nationalism, but my
> interests intersect
> with the question of nationalism. Perhaps this
> worsens the understanding.
> I hope not.
>
> Lisa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jivko Georgiev
> [mailto:jivkox43georgiev@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: arabs ana hanums
>
>
> > If you can't see how biopower relates to
> > nationalism, I don't know what to
> > tell you.
> >
> neither do i, sorry. I cant see such thing,
> honestly.
> The nationalism was a question foucault never cared
> about. But my research showed me that "ethnic
> cleansing, nationalism, bla, bla, bla" is on the
> first
> page of every western newspapper and magazin. And i
> say to myself : wow!! whats wrong with these guys?
> Than i figure out a paradox: the world, for which
> the
> national borders doesn exist anymore, and in which
> everyone is nomore of his own race, this world has
> as
> a main issue the nationalism and ethnic cleansing -
> this western world is forcing, through the help of
> the
> weapon, the other world to confest that he, the
> biggest part of the world, is a Nazi and he is doing
> the ethnic cleansing, when in fact most of the world
> doesnt know what that means. Isnt that crazy?
>
> Assertion of rights and authorship? How Foucauldian
> > is this?
> How?
>
> Regards!
> Jivko
> --- newidder <N.E.Widder@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >===== Original Message From
> > foucault@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =====
> > >Calm down.
> >
> > Some of us are calm when writing this.
> >
> > >Let me most of all say, that Michel Foucault has
> > >never, absolutely never dealed with any questions
> > of
> > >nation, nationalism and so on ,these were never
> > among
> > >his problems. never.
> >
> > >I am of a nationality, which has suffered for 500
> > >years under the turkish tirany, so i have the
> right
> > to
> > >say whatever i want about the arabs. they are
> > always a
> > >trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> > >"... Goodness,
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > Dr. Nathan Widder
> > Lecturer in Political Theory
> > University of Exeter
> > Department of Politics
> > Amory Building
> > Rennes Drive
> > Exeter EX4 4RJ
> > United Kingdom
> > Tel: +44 (0)1392 263 183
> > Fax: +44 (0)1392 263 305
> > http://www.ex.ac.uk/shipss/politics/staff/widder/
> >
>
>
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