What I meant was Giddens theory of agency which seeks to examine how
humans are constrained to a degree by their society yet possess agency
to effect social change. How does one engage a fruitful comparison
between Foucault and Giddens without saying one copied the other or is
just restating what the other said.
A friend of mine actually voiced his opinion that Foucault was not all
that original in his intellectual impetus due to the fact that
Durkheim and Weber were doing the same thing. While I recognize a
connection with Weber (in spite of their differences) I don't really
see how Durkheim's project is even similar to Foucault's unless if
they're both considered part of the broad realm of "social science".
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interesting questions, Chetan, as always. But what do you mean by
> "non-duality of power"? And who are the readers who conflate Durkheim's
> sociology with Foucault's notion of power?
>
> Nate
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Is anyone on here familiar much with the work of Anthony Giddens and
>> Emile Durkheim?
>> Some readers tend to conflate Durkheim's sociology and Giddens theory
>> of agency with Foucault's notion of fluid power and think that all are
>> somehow related. While there are similarities, I would think Giddens
>> criticizes aspects of Durkheim's positivist doctrine (or form what I
>> know of his work) and that Foucault is interested in non-duality of
>> power as opposed to Giddens more limited goal of challenging the
>> society (nurture) vs free human agency dichotomy.
>> Have you read much of either Giddens or Durkheim? Do you think they're
>> necessarily doing the same thing as Foucault? I know Foucault
>> recognized an ancestor in Max Weber, but he rarely mentions Durkheim.
>> Though that didn't stop Camille Paglia from twisting him into a
>> Durkheim copycat.
>>
>> --
>> Chetan Vemuri
>> West Des Moines, IA
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>> (319)-512-9318
>> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
>> world"
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"You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the world"
humans are constrained to a degree by their society yet possess agency
to effect social change. How does one engage a fruitful comparison
between Foucault and Giddens without saying one copied the other or is
just restating what the other said.
A friend of mine actually voiced his opinion that Foucault was not all
that original in his intellectual impetus due to the fact that
Durkheim and Weber were doing the same thing. While I recognize a
connection with Weber (in spite of their differences) I don't really
see how Durkheim's project is even similar to Foucault's unless if
they're both considered part of the broad realm of "social science".
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Nathaniel Roberts <npr4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interesting questions, Chetan, as always. But what do you mean by
> "non-duality of power"? And who are the readers who conflate Durkheim's
> sociology with Foucault's notion of power?
>
> Nate
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Chetan Vemuri <aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Is anyone on here familiar much with the work of Anthony Giddens and
>> Emile Durkheim?
>> Some readers tend to conflate Durkheim's sociology and Giddens theory
>> of agency with Foucault's notion of fluid power and think that all are
>> somehow related. While there are similarities, I would think Giddens
>> criticizes aspects of Durkheim's positivist doctrine (or form what I
>> know of his work) and that Foucault is interested in non-duality of
>> power as opposed to Giddens more limited goal of challenging the
>> society (nurture) vs free human agency dichotomy.
>> Have you read much of either Giddens or Durkheim? Do you think they're
>> necessarily doing the same thing as Foucault? I know Foucault
>> recognized an ancestor in Max Weber, but he rarely mentions Durkheim.
>> Though that didn't stop Camille Paglia from twisting him into a
>> Durkheim copycat.
>>
>> --
>> Chetan Vemuri
>> West Des Moines, IA
>> aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
>> (319)-512-9318
>> "You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the
>> world"
>> _______________________________________________
>> Foucault-L mailing list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Roberts
> Visiting Scholar
> Department of South Asia Studies
> University of Pennsylvania
> 820 Williams Hall, 255 S. 36th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
> USA
> _______________________________________________
> Foucault-L mailing list
>
--
Chetan Vemuri
West Des Moines, IA
aryavartacnsrn@xxxxxxxxx
(319)-512-9318
"You say you want a Revolution! Well you know, we all want to change the world"